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Forum » Hero & Item Ideas » Dota 6.82 hero changes (Suggestion) 17 posts - page 1 of 2
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Master P.D » August 12, 2014 11:32pm | Report
Hello Everyone , I tried to change every hero based on their effectiveness in the game. Share Your Ideas. Hope U like it!

Dota 6.82 hero changelog.

Abaddon

Aphotic Shield
- Cooldown rescaled from 12/10/8/6 to 9/8/7/6
- Damage absorb rescaled from 110/140/170/200 to 90/130/170/210

Alchemist

Chemical Rage
- When activated will grant 10 % bonus magic resistance.

Ancient Apparition

Chilling Touch
- Will reduce the attack speed of allies by 25 instead of 20.
- Will now works on structures (such as towers etc) but deal 25% damage.

Batrider

Firefly
- Duration increased from 18 to 20.

Flaming Lasso
- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
Duration will increase from 3/3.5/4 to 4.
Cooldown will be reduced from 90 / 70 / 50 to 60 / 45 / 30.

Beastmaster

Wild Axes
- Will no longer blocked by ethereal units.
- Manacost rescaled from 120 to 90/100/110/120.

Bloodseeker

Rupture
- Will activate Thirst on target regardless of its HP.
(It wont stack with the same target if it's HP drops below threshold)
Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade.
- Will cause enemies which dont move under rupture lose 5% of max HP per second.
(The damage is magical)
** The damage is dealt by 0.5% max HP per 0.1 sec **

Bounty Hunter

Shuriken Toss
- Will now damage magical immune units but wont mini stun them.

Shadow Walk
- Have 0.25 fade time at all levels.
- Manacost increased from 50 to 75.

Brewmaster

Primal Split
- Each of spirits killed during the period will cause brewmaster to have his HP removed by 1/3 of its HP before the ult.
- Aghanim's Scepter will however cause brewmaster to respawn with exact HP before the ult.

Bristleback

Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
- Warpath max stacks will increase from 5/6/7 to 7/8/9.
- Bristleback Will now release a Quill Spray at every 150 damage taken instead of 250.


Broodmother

Spawn Spiderlings
- Spiderlings and Spiderites can now gain unobstructed movement within the web.

Insatiable Hunger
- Duration decreased to 10.
- Bonus damage decreased from 60 / 80 / 100 to 40 / 60 / 80.
- The bouns damage will be added normally by leveling it. (just the lifesteal becomes the active component)

Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
- Will remove Spin Web's limit.
- Broodmother gains magic immunity by activating her ult.

Centaur Warrunner

Return
- Bonus Damage as Percent of Centaur Warrunner's Strength rescaled to 20%/30%/40%/50%.

Chaos Knight

Reality Rift
- No longer will be blocked by magic immunity.

Chaos Strike
- Critical Chance increased from 10% to 15%.

Chen

- Base magic resistance increased from 25% to 35%.
- Base movement speed increased from 300 to 305.
- Base attack time improved to 1.5.

Crystal Maiden

- Base movement speed increased from 280 to 290.
- Base armor increased from 1 to 3.

Freezing Field
- Manacost rescaled from 200/400/600 to 200/300/400.

Dark Seer

Surge Reworked

- Old : Charges a target friendly unit with power, giving it a brief burst of maximum movement speed.
Range: 600
Duration: 3/4.5/6/7.5
Cooldown 12/11/10/9 Manacost 20/30/40/50

- New : Charges a target friendly unit with power, giving it a brief burst of movement speed.
Range: 600
Movement speed burst : 150 / 200 / 250 / 300
Duration: 5.5
Cooldown 12/11/10/9 Manacost 35/45/55/65

** Will remove any slow at cast (except Demonic purge).
** Will remove movespeed cap (it can go higher than 522).

Dragon Knight

Elder Dragon Form
- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
The Dragon form will be permanent.
Will grant 30 additional movement speed.
Reduce base attack time to 1.5.

Drow Ranger

Marksmanship
- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
Will Passively add 40/55/70 bonus agility.
If there are no enemies in the 200 AOE the bonus is doubled.

Earth Spirit

Stone Remnant

- Max Charges reduced from 6 to 4.
- Charge Restore Time decreased from 30 to 15.
- Duration decreased from 120 to 30.
- Range: 1400

Magnetize Reworked :

- Old : Magnetizes enemy units in a small nearby area, causing them to take damage over time for a short duration. Any magnetized units cause nearby Stone Remnants to become energized and explode, applying/refreshing the magnetize debuff on all enemy units near the Stone Remnant. This process can repeat multiple times. Stone Remnants are destroyed in this process. If an enemy hero is affected by silence or slows as a result of Geomagnetic Grip or Rolling Boulder, all magnetized heroes share the effects.

Cast Radius: 300
Search Radius: 300
Explosion Radius: 600
Duration: 6
Damage per Second: 50/75/100

- New : Any Stone Remnant in a 1100 AOE radius will become static dealing initial damage and leaving a debuff on enemies in the area.

Initial damage : 100/130/160
Debuff Duration : 6 sec
Debuff DPS : 20/40/60

Manacost : 50 / 75 / 100 - Cooldown : 10 / 7 / 4 sec

*** Magnetize wont proc when there are not any stones in the area.
*** Damage from multiply remnants stacks.
*** The effected remnants will become static and destroy after 10 sec (meanwhile can be used with other spells)
*** If you cast Magnetize when there is a static remnant in the area the remnant will explode and refresh debuff (it will instantly destroy)
*** Magnetized units will share the effects of Rolling Boulder and Geomagnetic Grip ( including damage ).
*** The debuff will apply to units after the initial damage.
*** The remnants no longer detonates by magnetized units.

Elder Titan

Earth Splitter
- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
Will decrease cooldown from 100 to 60 / 45 / 30.

Ember Spirit

Fire Remnant
- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
Increase remnant charges to 10.
Will reduce remnant recharge time to 25 sec.

Enigma

Black Hole
- Aghanim's Scepter upgrade now reduces cooldown from 200/190/180 to 180/160/140

Faceless Void

Backtrack Reworked:
- Old : Faceless Void dodges damage by jumping backward in time, eluding both physical and magical attacks.

Dodge Chance: 10% / 15% / 20% / 25%
- New : Faceless Void takes reduced damage by jumping backward in time healing himself , can heal from both physical and magical attacks.

Heal Chance: 15% / 20% / 25% / 30%
Reduced Incoming damage: 30% / 40% / 50% / 60%

Ultimate Chronosphere replaced with Curse of Time:

Faceless Void creates a magic shield around himself , ignoring the time. In this state he will get movement speed , phase walk , can walk through unobstructed paths , disjointing enemies attack and locking enemies he attacks at the cost of his attack damage.

Shield Duration : 4 / 4.5 / 5 (6*)
Evasion : 30% / 50% / 70%
Lock stun duration : 3 (4*)
Movement Speed : 700
Attack Damage Reduction : 50% / 40% / 30%
Cooldown : 100 (80*) Manacost : 100 / 150 / 200

* Can be upgraded by Aghanim's Scepter
** Lock stun can be purged and dispel by magic immunity however magic immunity will not prevent locking.
** Units under lock stun cannot become invisible and their evasion will perish for lock duration.
** Attacking the locked unit again will not cause the duration to refresh.
** The lock stun and evasion will removed upon Doom but movement speed and free pathing will not.


Jakiro

Macropyre
- Radius increased from 225 to 400

Juggernaut

Blade Fury Reworked:

- Old : Causes a bladestorm of destructive force around Juggernaut, rendering him immune to magic and dealing damage to nearby enemy units. Lasts 5 seconds.

Radius: 250
Duration: 5
Damage Per Second: 80/100/120/140
Cooldown 30/27/24/21 Manacost 110

- New : Causes a bladestorm of destructive force around Juggernaut, rendering him immune to magic and dealing damage to nearby enemy units.

Radius: 250
Damage Per Second: 50/75/100/125
Mana Per Second : 25
Cooldown 25/20/15/10 Manacost 100

** This ability have toggle On/Off.
** Will continue to spin until either juggernaut have no mana or dies.

Legion Commander

Duel
- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
- Duration will increase from 4/4.75/5.5 to 5.75 sec.
- Gives magic immunity for the duration.

Lina

- Attack range increased from 670 to 700.

Mirana

Moonlight Shadow
- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
- The effect time will be doubled on mirana.
- The cooldown reduced from 140/120/100 to 120/100/80.

Naga Siren

Mirror Image
- Illusion Damage Dealt from 20%/25%/30%/35% to 20%.
- Illusion Damage Taken from 500%/400%/300%/200% to 300%.
- Duration from 30 to 15/20/25/30.

Nature's Prophet

Teleportation
- Cooldown rescaled from 50/40/30/20 to 45/40/35/30.

Ogre Magi

- Base Movement Speed increased to 305
- Base Strength decreased by 3.

Multi Cast
- Chance to cast at least twice: 40%/20%/20%
- Chance to cast at least three times: 0%/30%/20%
- Chance to cast four times: 0%/0%/20%

Omniknight

Purification
- Cast time reduced to 0.5.

Phantom Lancer

Juxtapose
- Illusion duration scaled from 20 to 15/20/25/30.

Puck

Dream Coil
- Aghanim's Scepter upgrade will now cause coil components works through magic immunity.

Pudge

Meat Hook
- Aghanim's Scepter upgrade now increase the range of hook from 700/900/1100/1300 to 900/1100/1300/1500.
- Hook Speed will increase from 1600 to 1800.

Queen of Pain

Sonic Wave
- Aghanim's Scepter upgrade no longer increase damage but change the damage type to universal.

Riki

Smoke Screen
- Cooldown scaled from 11 to 11/10/9/8.

Rubick

Null Field
- Bonus magic resistance from 5%/10%/15%/20% to 10%/15%/20%/25%.

Sand King

Caustic Finale Reworked:

- Old : Sand King's attacks inject a venom that causes enemy units to explode violently upon death, spreading area damage.

Explosion Radius: 400
Debuff Duration: 8
Explosion Damage: 90/130/170/220

- New : Empowers Sand King's attacks as it injects venom in targeted units causing them to slow and take damage.

Buff Duration : 4
Debuff Duration : 4
Debuff Slow : 10%/15%/20%/25%.
Debuff DPS : 20/30/40/50

Cooldown : 15/13/11/9 Manacost : 40 / 50 / 60 / 70

** This ability is self-active.
** If the same target attacked in the duration the debuff will refreshed.
** The slow will work on Mechanical and magic immuned targets but the damage wont.
** Can be purged both the buff and debuff.


Skywrath Mage

Concussive Shot
- Slow rescaled from 40% to 20%/25%/30%/35%.

Mystic Flare
- Aghanim's Scepter upgrade now will reduce manacost from 350/575/800 to 250/350/450 and rescale cooldown from 20/10/0 to 15/10/5.

Slark

Shadow Dance
- Cooldown rescaled from 60 to 60/50/40.

Spectre

Spectral Dagger
- Manacost rescaled from 130/140/150/160 to 100/120/140/160.

Spirit Breaker

Charge of Darkness
- Cooldown rescaled from 35 to 45/40/35/30.

Empowering Haste
- Increased Allied Movement Speed bonus from 6%/10%/14%/18% to 10%/14%/18%/22%.

Greater Bash
- Stun duration from 1/1.2/1.4/1.6 to 1.6 at all levels.

Sven

- Base Movement Speed from 295 to 300.

Terrorblade

Conjure Image
- Illusion damage dealt from 30/40/50/60% to 20/30/40/50%.
- Illusion damage taken from 200% to 150%.

- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade :
Reduce Metamorphosis cooldown from 140 to 80.
Will reduce Conjure Image cooldown from 16 to 10.

Tidehunter

- Base strength decreased by 3.

Timbersaw

Chakram
- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
Initial manacost will decrease from 150/175/200 to 50.
Reduce cooldown from 8 to 4.
The Chakram travels at a speed of 1800 instead of 900.

Tinker

March of the Machines
- Now have a 1.5 second cast time.

Rearm
- Channeling Time increased from 3/2/1 to 3.5/2.5/1.5.
- Manacost reduced from 150/250/350 to 150/200/250.

Tiny

Toss
- Manacost rescaled from 120 to 90/100/110/120.

Craggy Exterior
- Bonus armor from 2/3/4/5 to 5.

Treant Protector

- Turn rate improved to 0.7 from 0.5.

Troll Warlord

Berserker's Rage
- Bonus armor rescaled from 3 to 2/3/4/5.

Tusk

Walrus Punch
- Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade:
Reduces cooldown from 25/20/15 to 6.

Viper

Nethertoxin
- Non-hero damage from 50% to 100%.

Witch Doctor

Maledict
- Manacost reduced from 120 to 90.

Wraith King

- Strength growth decreased from 2.9 to 2 per level.
- Agility growth increased from 1.9 to 2.5 per level.

Mortal Strike

- Critical change increased from 15 to 17%.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Bunkansee » August 13, 2014 12:38am | Report
This is awesome, I love to see long lists of ideas like this. I'm going to comment on particular things:

I'm not sure about the Rupture upgrade, note that it pretty much becomes an OP unavoidable ability. Standing still is the only way to counter it and if this aghs upgrade was a thing the target would take nearly 70% damage if they stand still.

I want this Crystal Maiden buff! That move speed and armour <3

The Freezing Field mana de-buff is pretty good, I feel it should maybe scale more like this: 150/250/350 or 200/300/400. Either way I feel 600 mana is too much, but note it can deal 21700 damage :o

I like the bonus Lina range but not sure whether it's necessary. Sniper gets to 950 I believe so having Lina have 700 at level one might be too much, I'm not sure however.

I really like all of these ideas, hope you come up with some more!

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Krwiozerca » August 13, 2014 12:48am | Report
That's some work you put into that!

I like the Jakiro change a lot, because the radius of Macropyre should be a little bit better.

You should fix Chaos Knight - you wrote Chaos Night - it sounds the same, though.

I think that Alchemist magic resistance is a little bit too high. He already has enormous HP regen, so making him so tanky against magic damage is a crime!

I would decrease the amount of HP removal in Rupture from 7%/sec to like 3-4%/sec at best.

I guess that Duel Agh's upgrade is way too OP.

Moonlight Shadow idea is like a wet dream - don't do this.

I like the nerf on Primal Split.

Meat Hook 1700 range? Come on!

There is no need to buff Mortal Strike. Wraith King is already very strong.

I could write more, but I have no time right now. I like many of your ideas. Well done.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Master P.D » August 13, 2014 1:21am | Report
Tnx for your feedbacks I try to still make so changes also I want to share my changes about items as well but it may take time as this took me 2~3 days to think and write also the damage on Rupture is not HP-Removal its magical but however I will make changes so don't worry. :)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sando » August 13, 2014 2:38am | Report
You've obviously put a lot of work into this, and I like some of the ideas, don't mind others, and strongly disagree with a few.

Agree:

+ Enigma Aghs upgrade reduces cooldown a bit.
+ Movement speed on CM (not the armour)
+ Little buffs for Omni and Jakiro
+ DK Aghs Upgrade is nice and fairly balanced

Disagree:

- Jugger change, be SO easy to constantly be dodging spells, going magic immune whenever you want, massively OP
- Ogre strength drop, why? He's not exactly too strong at the moment.
- Rupture, as mentioned
- Drow Ranger aghs...uh no way!
- Various other small changes that I don't really understand the point of, or weaken heroes who already have no place the in meta, buff already strong heroes, etc.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Rudd » August 13, 2014 3:01am | Report
Nice work.

However, I have to disagree a lot with some things:


Alchemist: His ultimate is already really strong. The hero can be played Mid, Carry or as a Support. Its a very solid hero, with several different potential roles. Why buff him even more?


Ags on DK: Permanent Ult Form is just too strong. The stats of the Ags is good on DK: more hp, more agility for attack speed, a bit more mana from the inteligence. I feel it would be just too strong on DK.


Viper: Why would you want to buff Viper? Its already a strong hero. Already dominates the 1v1 lanes. And you want to buff him? Make him even stronger in the last hits? Whats the point?


Ogre: Why nerf Ogre Magi? The hero has so many limitations that make the pros not even consider him in 90% of the matches. Why nerf him even more? Specially nerfing one of the few advantages Ogre has, which is to be a rather tanky support.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Master P.D » August 13, 2014 3:32am | Report
Tnx for all of your ideas and time you guys spend on reading this I still will change many things in this post so I take all of your opinions to balance it more. :)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Master P.D » August 13, 2014 4:01am | Report
Sando wrote:

You've obviously put a lot of work into this, and I like some of the ideas, don't mind others, and strongly disagree with a few.

Agree:

+ Enigma Aghs upgrade reduces cooldown a bit.
+ Movement speed on CM (not the armour)
+ Little buffs for Omni and Jakiro
+ DK Aghs Upgrade is nice and fairly balanced

Disagree:

- Jugger change, be SO easy to constantly be dodging spells, going magic immune whenever you want, massively OP
- Ogre strength drop, why? He's not exactly too strong at the moment.
- Rupture, as mentioned
- Drow Ranger aghs...uh no way!
- Various other small changes that I don't really understand the point of, or weaken heroes who already have no place the in meta, buff already strong heroes, etc.


1 - Ok I agree with you Juggernaut change was op so I nerfed it but remember its potential for getting first blood has decreased and late game a bkb without being able to attack is not so good and jugger manapool is not so high.

2 - Rupture I nerfed it in list but believe me its not too much damage for 4200 gold you spend on aghanim's which you can get better items.

3 - Drow Ranger I also decreased the bonus agility but it should worth getting one if it dont worth it people would never build it on her :). Tnx anyway with people discussing the results are obviously better.

4 - Ogre Magi I dropped his strength cause I wanted to buff his ult but didn't have time for it sorry :). ( I changed it now)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Master P.D » August 13, 2014 4:13am | Report
Rudd wrote:

Nice work.

However, I have to disagree a lot with some things:


Alchemist: His ultimate is already really strong. The hero can be played Mid, Carry or as a Support. Its a very solid hero, with several different potential roles. Why buff him even more?


Ags on DK: Permanent Ult Form is just too strong. The stats of the Ags is good on DK: more hp, more agility for attack speed, a bit more mana from the inteligence. I feel it would be just too strong on DK.


Viper: Why would you want to buff Viper? Its already a strong hero. Already dominates the 1v1 lanes. And you want to buff him? Make him even stronger in the last hits? Whats the point?


Ogre: Why nerf Ogre Magi? The hero has so many limitations that make the pros not even consider him in 90% of the matches. Why nerf him even more? Specially nerfing one of the few advantages Ogre has, which is to be a rather tanky support.


1 - Alchemist Yeah he is strong but not as before when he had bonus HP he is now stronger early - mid game and have late game potential if given enough farm but I think he deserve something that scales into late game however I made it weaker.

2 - Dragon Knight aghs will be situational however I want people to build more aghanim's in heroes currently aghanim's really doesn't have worth for some heroes to buy and overpowered for others but also 4200 gold is not a little as you can go for better items like Daedalus or Heart of Tarrasque or ever Satanic.

3 - As you said Viper is already strong in lane but does he win the game? In most of cases he cant because his peak is mid not late so I done this to help him last hit - deny and push towers better.

4 - Ogre Magi reason as the top comment. :)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » August 13, 2014 4:29am | Report
Just maske a single post, don't make different ones to respond to everyone.

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