Centaur build?

Just been giving Centaur Warrunner a try but haven't seen any new guides for him. Almost all the guides on DOTAfire are from 2012 with only one from 2013. Worse yet; the in game dota guides I've been trusting only have one build guide for him which looks worse than the Valve guide. Any real suggestions on how I should build him?

Usually tranquils are picked up for the heal as the attack speed is mostly wasted, especially later in the game since his rightclicks are weak.
The main thing you should know is to ALWAYS make a blink on him. Seriously, a lot of people will argue against it becouse you have stampede, but blink gives you faster and better (counter)initiation then stampede on a MUCH MUCH shorter cooldown. It is a high skill item and makes the most out of the hero, if you can rush it after completing your boots.

From there you make utility items that make you tanky and they all depend on the current situation.
Blademail against enemies like ursa or tinker.
Pipe against magic AOE.
Shiva against physical damage, the aura is amazing.
Heavens halberd, the evasion coupled with your already high strength makes you REALLY tanky. But you mainly get it for the disarm to shut down carries.
Assault cuirass if none of your allies picks it up.
Black king bar for magic immunity if they have a lot of disables.
Only get heart once you dont need any other items, though it is a great lategame centaur item dont just get one by default. Adapt and get the items that are needed first, dont always rush it like a lot of people will suggest.

Some more situational ones are:
Force staff for more initiation and escape for you and your allies.
Ghost scepter if you are being destroyed by physical damage and have trouble getting your spells off.
Vladimir's offering if you have a lot of melee heroes and no one to get this.
Mekanism if your team needs it but it mostly isnt that crucial in pubs.

Look I'm gonna tell you how. For the records you are right about the guides and the ones on steam.

First skill build.

• Max Hoof Stomp and Double Edge till level 9, on level 6 Stampede, level 10 Return, level 11 Stampede and so on. You need both Hoof Stomp and Double Edge to deal big damage instead of leveling up only once Hoof Stomp and Return then maxing Double Edge.
  
• The same old build. 1 level to Hoof Stomp and 1 level to Return and maxing Double Edge.
  
• Off-lane Centaur Warrunner . 1 level to Hoof Stomp, 1 level to Double Edge then maxing Return]. Later level up the [[Hoof Stomp and Double Edge till their maxed and on level 10 and 11 level up Stampede.

Item build:

• Starting items: Tango, Healing Salve, Stout Shield
• Early items: Boots of Speed, Vanguard
• Core items: Phase Boots, Vanguard, Blink Dagger, Radiance
• Luxuries: Assault Cuirass, Heart of Tarrasque, Shiva's Guard, Satanic, Boots of Travel
• Situational items: Hood of Defiance, Pipe of Insight, Heaven's Halberd, Blade Mail, Black King Bar, Linken's Sphere, Vladmir's Offering

Please don't build the Tranquil, Blink Dagger, Hood of Defiance. It's not a viable anymore for me it never was. Tranquil Boots are trash since 6.79 and even Hood of Defiance reduces the damage dealt on Centaur Warrunner by Double Edge, Vanguard and Phase Boots are a much better choice always were.

Allies: Crystal Maiden, Bristleback, Lion, Shadow Shaman, Venomancer, Viper, Ogre Magi, Night Stalker

Enemies: Lifestealer, Phantom Lancer, Venomancer, Shadow Shaman, Kunkka, Timbersaw, Puck, Pugna

You still get enough heal out of tranquil boots to make them viable, you can even drop them on the ground while jungling so you get regen once you pick them up.
Phase boots are wasted gold, if you dont want tranquil get brown boots.

Vanguard is underpowered right now and falls off really fast, and you dont get any strength for return from it. It also delays blink dagger. You dont want to get blink after 20 minutes as a centaur.

Fear WTF are you talking about? Hood reduces self damage so it is bad? Hood is kinda ****py but you are supposed to get the entire pipe.

Radiance is wasted money, why would you want a radiance just before 30 minutes? It is an item to get before 20 minutes and its trash on centaur.

Satanic doesnt provide any utility for your team and you dont put out that much rightclick anyway.

Considering Bradwarden is played as an Offlaner or a Support, there will be plenty of opportunities to make use of the Regen, plus it's cheap Movement Speed and Armour, even when Broken.

Not to mention, how much time are you going to waste trying to Farm one?

Agreed, without any real right-click damage, Satanic is useless. Just try to get some Cheese instead.

I generally don't like Tranquils, but they're decent on Centaur Warrunner ; most of the time I just go Boots of Speed into Blink Dagger and then wait for BoT, much like a Beastmaster, but Tranquil Boots only cost 525 more. After your core, you can buy anything that makes you more survivable: Vanguard, Blade Mail, Heaven's Halberd, Drum of Endurance, Vladmir's Offering, Mekansm, Black King Bar, Pipe of Insight... The choice is yours. For the late game, Shiva's Guard and Assault Cuirass should be your main priorities.

As for the skill build, always max Double Edge first. You might want to get a level of Return at 2 when playing in the offlane, but you should still get full levels of your nuke by level 7 (or 8 if you really want that second level of Return to discourage harass damage).

TL;DR:
Items: Boots of Speed/ Tranquil Boots --> Blink Dagger --> Anything that makes you tanky or has a built-in aura.
Skill build: max Double Edge by level 7 (or 8) and then Hoof Stomp, take a point or two in Return before level 10 only if offlaning, get your ultimate at the standard levels.


I think he meant "...and even though Hood of Defiance reduces the damage dealt on Centaur Warrunner by Double Edge, Vanguard and Phase Boots are a much better choice always were." I kind of agree with it, though I'd take the Blink first and then the Vanguard.

I've been trying a hp regen build with Tranquil, Vanguard, and Hood of Defiance. Also been leveling up Return first to give myself some lane pushing and jungling potential. Blink dagger has been a situational pick to me depending on how the game is going. Played two games where we snowballed so hard that I rushed a heart and pretty much became nigh unkillable instead of the blink.

I usually save my ult as an escape for my team instead of an initiating ability.

Only had to build a bkb once; that was due to the other team being team lockdown.

Radiance is not gotten for the farm, but for the DPS.Since centaur will be really tanky, he is going to draw the focus because he has the radiance.

I know but that doesnt make any sense. If you dont need tankyness and want AOE damage you get a mjollnir since it is so damn strong now.
But that is also pretty situational.

And please please blink is so core. Just like blink on sand king and earthshaker.

I only pass up blink when we snowball. When I say snowball, one game ended 52-7. Their mid was horrid. Basically where I can stand outside of their fountain and pretty much harass their players back.