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Is Windranger really the highest damaging carry 6.83?

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Forum » Theory Crafting » Is Windranger really the highest damaging carry 6.83? 32 posts - page 2 of 4
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » January 21, 2015 3:20am | Report
the blank state.Me like your name wulfy-chan.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by MrLocket » January 21, 2015 3:38am | Report
Please don't get diffusal on WR because it's terrible on her, if you want to **** magic just get orchid or sheepstick on her, slow is not needed because you already have a stun. If you need purge just get eul's, it can set up your shackle too.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » January 21, 2015 3:40am | Report
KoDyAbAbA wrote:

the blank state.Me like your name wulfy-chan.

Thank you. It also means a new/fresh begining.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Cataclysm2146 » January 21, 2015 2:20pm | Report
She has high dps, sure, but she has no way to quickly down a big bunch of heroes in a fight. Also her focus fire can be negated by ethereal form, and her damage isn't near-instant like, say, morph's shotgun combo. This gives enemies time to focus her and take her down.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Blubbles » January 21, 2015 3:32pm | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

She's a semi-carry who relies on farming a few core items for ~15 mins and then snowballing off pickoffs with blink-shackle and pushing towers. You pick her because she wins her lane easily as a solo sidelane (allowing your team to have a jungler or trilane), she can make a lot of space. She's a position 3 or possibly 2 hero, see her as a Bounty Hunter or a Mirana for example.

She doesn't carry hard because she's purely single target so she can only kill ONE hero is a teamfight. Never ever play her as a position 1, it's utter game-throwing garbage that will just get you reported.

Diffusal Blade is a horrible item on WR because WR doesn't need agility AT ALL and Atos is just better.

Diffusal :
- 3150 gold
- +31 damage (25 from manaburn + 6 from INT)
- 600 range slow limited to 8 charges
- feel like Anti-Mage but who cares

Rod of Atos :
- 3100 gold
- +25 damage
- +325 (!!) HP
- 1200 (!!) range slow with no charge limit

Get Atos on her. How is that even a contest?

Highest DPS hero in the game? Not really. Don't forget that what scales best in this game are illusion heroes so Terrorblade is still the DPS lord of DotA.

Windranger is NOT Clinkz. Don't try to be a full DPS hard carry because it won't work. WR is all about landing good Shackleshots, her lane presence, and early fighting with Windrun. Don't try to be Clinkz with WR, if you want a safe lane carry with high DPS, just pick Clinkz.

She doesn't outclass any carry with equal farm, she only outclasses BAD carries. I tried it, a 3-slotted WR beats a 5-slotted Mirana or Sniper in a manfight. But that's just because Mirana and Sniper are horrible carries with no scaling whatsoever! Against a real SCALING carry like Terrorblade, Phantom Assassin or something, as soon as they get MKB, WR has no chance.


ManaBurn is the key of Diffusal. You can take health AND mana, so paired up with insane attack speed, you can drain nearly all of a heores mana in a matter of seconds.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » January 21, 2015 4:52pm | Report
And...what's the point of burning mana? With a damage item like a deso or something she melts any hero in 2 seconds anyways. You want to kill heroes with your ult not burn their mana xD
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » January 21, 2015 5:11pm | Report
Wulfstan wrote:


I am replying right now.

I love Windy, don't get me wrong, but you're liking ger for what she is not. This kind of love was just like inbetwen me and my ex.

I love her for what she is : excellent utility and high SEMI carry pottential. But she can't be more than that. That's it. Trust me, I tried. Both with my ex and Windy.

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/102970748/matches?date=&faction=&hero=windranger&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&duration=


god wulf u so MLG me ded now.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » January 21, 2015 7:08pm | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

And...what's the point of burning mana? With a damage item like a deso or something she melts any hero in 2 seconds anyways. You want to kill heroes with your ult not burn their mana xD

Aghanim's Scepter > Desolator

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by theMightyNugget » January 21, 2015 7:33pm | Report
Hey guys, glad to see all the different opinions :) I think what you guys didn't understand about my post is I wasn't interested in practicality or your fancy dotabuff accounts or anything. If I wanted build info I would have posted this somewhere else.
I wanted to know:
  • Is Windy the highest dps hero compared to equal farm on any other hero?
  • If so, how much farm and which items is she most effective with?

I know that agi hardcarries will dominate in the lategame. I was interested in the math and farm on a carry Windranger, not whether it would actually work in a high-skill game. Hope this helps.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » January 21, 2015 8:43pm | Report
I actually... Don't play Windy as a DPS hero... xD

But... I assume Maelstrom is a good item on her, Focus Fire means lots of lightning. AFTER agh's, of course.

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