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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » November 29, 2015 8:43am | Report
UltraSuperHyper wrote:

Blademail + Sprint = moar damage to enemies?

Not questioning the legitimacy of Blademail on Slardar, just mocking him for rushing it BEFORE Blink Dagger.
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Nothing wrong with Blade Mail on Slardar. It's just...if you don't rush dagger on this hero you're horrible at dota.

i.e. this ^
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » November 29, 2015 8:50am | Report
Shadow Blade is also good on Slardar.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » November 29, 2015 9:11am | Report
Wulfstan wrote:

Shadow Blade is also good on Slardar.

Suggested this a year back as a viable alternative to blink build. It makes your bash scale and also upgrades to silver edge, a formidable item late game against carries as you have your stun for following up.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » November 29, 2015 9:18am | Report
Wulfstan wrote:

Shadow Blade is also good on Slardar.



Slardar has big enough mana issues as it is. He can't really afford the 75 mana cost for SB on top of the cost of his stun.

Besides, 28 second cooldown. What makes Slithereen Crush such a strong skill is its ultra-low cooldown, and you need blink to use it several times. You can shadowblade-stun only once, while you can blink-stun up to 3 times in a teamfight. Besides you probably can't even use SB to initiate teamfights because sentries.

Essentially if you go SB on Slardar instead of blink you reduce the hero's teamfight presence to literally zero (since he has no practical way to land those 3-man stuns in TFs), only to have a very slightly better build for solo killing.

It's true that SB gives some precious right-click that blink doesn't, but if you want right-click you can just get an Armlet of Mordiggian and a Moon Shard after your dagger instead of Force Staff (pls stop confusing Slardar and Centaur...they have nothing in common outside of their stun) and you'll right-click really hard.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by UltraSuperHyper » November 29, 2015 10:13am | Report
I just wanted to know whether it worked that way or not. Then any damage amplified by any source would be reflected as the total damage right?

That is;
reflected damage = incident damage + extra damage (due to amplification
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » November 29, 2015 10:19am | Report
Blade Mail reflects the damage you actually take to your HP pool, after reduction and amplification. So yes, since you take more damage with sprint, you'll also return more damage.

Blade Mail is a good item on all those strength initiators anyways, so no problem with building it on Slardar as long as you rush blink.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » November 29, 2015 8:34pm | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:




Slardar has big enough mana issues as it is. He can't really afford the 75 mana cost for SB on top of the cost of his stun.

Besides, 28 second cooldown. What makes Slithereen Crush such a strong skill is its ultra-low cooldown, and you need blink to use it several times. You can shadowblade-stun only once, while you can blink-stun up to 3 times in a teamfight. Besides you probably can't even use SB to initiate teamfights because sentries.

Essentially if you go SB on Slardar instead of blink you reduce the hero's teamfight presence to literally zero (since he has no practical way to land those 3-man stuns in TFs), only to have a very slightly better build for solo killing.

It's true that SB gives some precious right-click that blink doesn't, but if you want right-click you can just get an Armlet of Mordiggian and a Moon Shard after your dagger instead of Force Staff (pls stop confusing Slardar and Centaur...they have nothing in common outside of their stun) and you'll right-click really hard.

depends whether you are going initiator or carry/ganking carry clinkz style.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » November 29, 2015 10:54pm | Report
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Lothar's? Lol!

That was like a 4th or 5th item. Besides, if you watched the replay you'll see how much work it did.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » November 30, 2015 11:24am | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

Nothing wrong with Blade Mail on Slardar. It's just...if you don't rush dagger on this hero you're horrible at dota.

Silver Edge Necrophos is legit as hell BTW. Get rekt Huskar pickers :)

and then huskar just uses his ult and purges it...
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » November 30, 2015 11:37am | Report
Timminatorr wrote:


and then huskar just uses his ult and purges it...


Attack him to pop out of invis and ult him just after. He doesn't have time to do anything.

Necro with silver owns Huskar exactly because of that : he doesn't have to bring Huskar low to ult him, he's already low in the first place so remove his magic resistance and ez kill by straight up ulting him.
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