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guys .... im going to do a pudge guide ....

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » October 31, 2014 12:15am | Report
the title says it all...

i play pudge.

as with any pudge player you have good days ...you have great days ... then you have **** days which are the other 75% of the time.

i like to think im pretty decent.

i once got a 360 blink no scope blind hook on a blinked Queen of pain ...

100% legit !!! i paused game and ran around the house naked while screaming " DENDI HOOOKZZZZZZZ FOR DAYYZZZZZ"

^ sadly that is 100% true .... i share my shame guys ... i know you have all done that before. so ...no judging me !



BUT THAT IS BESIDE THE POINT...

i actually want to write a proper pudge guide. one that ACTUALLY is GOOD.

I DONT WANT TO DO THESE:::

pudge great playerhe des many grate hookz on peoplesand i love him very muchcause he my pudgy and i like him please plus rep


i want to write and make a guide that accuratley depicts everything pudge can do ... and everything he cant.


i want to make this a COMPREHENSIVE pudge guide. one that people can look at and even if they are a beginner or an expert ... learn something.


so i realised that no matter how much i play pudge it wont compare to the amount WE ALL HAVE PLAYED pudge so.

i ask you all.

share your tips. share your ideas. if you have images ...SHARE SHARE SHARE.

so the next time some one makes a guide where all it has is a wall of text and a video of that ONE TIME they got a hook on a stunned hero and now want to make it seem they know all about pudge we can send them to this guide and go ...."no go back to your cupboard."

Now ....release THE KRAKENNN!!




EDITS:

ITEMS:
Pipe of Insight - cause you can never have enough magic resistance,(bring it Lina)
SKILLS:
PLAYS:
IMSOPRO PLAYS:
FOES:
ALLIES:
IMAGES:

I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL.... WITH FLUFFY BUNNIES


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by UltraSuperHyper » October 31, 2014 12:26am | Report
Smuggels wrote:

Now ....release THE KRAKENNN!!


^ this

But well honestly, a pipe of insight always.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » October 31, 2014 12:48am | Report
i really think that Blink Dagger as well as Force Staff is core on pudge.

Also mark hooking spots on mini map will also help:

here, i linked a good sized minimap for u <3 c: http://i.imgur.com/Sw79q.jpg

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » October 31, 2014 12:51am | Report
KoDyAbAbA wrote:

here, i linked a good sized minimap for u <3 c: http://i.imgur.com/Sw79q.jpg


awww yeaaa our first image!!

I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL.... WITH FLUFFY BUNNIES


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by FleetAU » October 31, 2014 1:35am | Report
I think pudge should be played as a roamer of sorts, go tranqs, urn, blink and wards....I get flamed for warding as pudge........
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » October 31, 2014 2:00am | Report
Smuggels wrote:

the title says it all...

i paused game and ran around the house

naked

while screaming " DENDI HOOOKZZZZZZZ FOR DAYYZZZZZ"



hold on a sec

if that is true i will ****ing scratch your ***

is it?
Don't Worry, Be Happy

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by AngeloBangelo » October 31, 2014 3:06am | Report
I don't think pipe always a good idea.

Explain when to get certain items: pipe vs magical heroes, crimson guard is great against physical, and even AC if you have a great pushing line up and are against a lot of negative armor like slardar, venge, a natural medallion carrier.

Force is typically a defensive item used to kite BKB melee carries.

Blink is typically an offensive item used to position around wards or high vision heroes (Like NS during night time)

BKB can be viable for shutting down a physical damage hero with BKB (PA BKBs, you BKB and dismember PA, you both waste your BKB. Your team makes the better trade)

Explain how to lane against different heroes. When heroes can you fight for runes, which heroes do you have to submit runes to

Who are the best hook targets (Sniper)

Who are the worst hook targets (Tide)

Boot choices (Most go phase. You can tread if you swap often. Tranquils are rare)

Watching last hitting patterns (He keeps stutter stepping upwards. I should hook here)

Predicting last hits (He's going to last hit this melee creep, giving me a clear hook)

Predicting last hits with spells (QoP just hit the ranged creep once. This means she's going to scream the wave to farm it, giving me a clear hook)

Who is Pudge best against in the mid game?

Who is he worst against?

Which heroes can rotate for pudge mid (Lion), which cannot (Shadow Demon)

Which heroes can Pudge kill during the mid game? What heroes should Pudge avoid during the mid game? What heroes are killable with a support helping? What supports are best suited for pudge?

When should you use a smoke? When do you smoke supports? When are solo smokes worth it?

What runes do you gank with?

What runes should you return to lane with?

How to do prioritize hook targets? Which lane do should you kill, and why?


A good Pudge is extremely hard to play. He has to find the perfect balance between getting successful ganks, hiding in the fog to scare all lanes, and still get some farm for himself.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » October 31, 2014 5:56am | Report

I don't think pipe always a good idea.

Explain when to get certain items: pipe vs magical heroes, crimson guard is great against physical, and even AC if you have a great pushing line up and are against a lot of negative armor like slardar, venge, a natural medallion carrier.

Force is typically a defensive item used to kite BKB melee carries.

Blink is typically an offensive item used to position around wards or high vision heroes (Like NS during night time)

BKB can be viable for shutting down a physical damage hero with BKB (PA BKBs, you BKB and dismember PA, you both waste your BKB. Your team makes the better trade)

Explain how to lane against different heroes. When heroes can you fight for runes, which heroes do you have to submit runes to

Who are the best hook targets (Sniper)

Who are the worst hook targets (Tide)

Boot choices (Most go phase. You can tread if you swap often. Tranquils are rare)

Watching last hitting patterns (He keeps stutter stepping upwards. I should hook here)

Predicting last hits (He's going to last hit this melee creep, giving me a clear hook)

Predicting last hits with spells (QoP just hit the ranged creep once. This means she's going to scream the wave to farm it, giving me a clear hook)

Who is Pudge best against in the mid game?

Who is he worst against?

Which heroes can rotate for pudge mid (Lion), which cannot (Shadow Demon)

Which heroes can Pudge kill during the mid game? What heroes should Pudge avoid during the mid game? What heroes are killable with a support helping? What supports are best suited for pudge?

When should you use a smoke? When do you smoke supports? When are solo smokes worth it?

What runes do you gank with?

What runes should you return to lane with?

How to do prioritize hook targets? Which lane do should you kill, and why?


A good Pudge is extremely hard to play. He has to find the perfect balance between getting successful ganks, hiding in the fog to scare all lanes, and still get some farm for himself.


this is basically the guide
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Romark14 » October 31, 2014 6:03am | Report
Personally, if you included a "How to counter" section i would love it. He is picked so damned often and i know a couple of tricks, but if a good player has a hold of him it is very difficult.
Dimonychan wrote:

Split-puhing <- when you do it.
Rat doto <- when enemy does it.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ashwinthegrim » October 31, 2014 7:49am | Report
Pretty much everything Angelo mentioned..

The thing I notice with most Pudge guides is that, they tell you what to build, etc.. However, with a skill-shot oriented hero like Pudge, the playstyle matters more than the items themselves..

Make sure you focus on the playstyle part of things.. Some of them are, solo smoke ganks to stay hidden from enemy observer wards, positioning yourself in fog, using Rot to last hit effectively, using hook to initiate teamfights, etc.

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