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The Pancake Prophet

August 6, 2012 by Draconie
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Build 1

Build 1: tower push prophet

DotA2 Hero: Death Prophet

Offense

Damage 44-56

Defense

Armor 2.96

Other

Movement Speed 285

Attributes

Strength 74
Agility 49
Intelligence 95

Basic Stats

Health 1879
Mana 1456

Purchase Order

Starting items

early roaming items

core

mid-late game

situational

6th item in test



Hero Skills

Crypt Swarm

1 3 5 12

Silence

9 10 13 14

Witchcraft

2 4 7 8

Exorcism

6 11 16

Stats

15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

Introduction

This guide is out of date, so don't take what i put to seriously. The base is still the same as what i use but my item choice is a little different.

Early game items

I found that most players at the low-mid level aren't very good at counter harassing death prophet. So I only take 1 Tango just to cover the damage you might sustain. The Mantle of Intelligence is chosen in order to give a little extra damage and mana. The Sage's Mask is chosen in order to enable death prophet to almost spam the locust swarm spell. Once you get enough money quickly get a Null Talisman and then Phase Boots. These items will allow you to roam around and gank if you need to.

early game

Death prophets locust swarm does very little damage for the mana cost until you get it to level 2 when you are at level 3. Be very careful when you use locust swarm, since it can cause your lane to push very fast and let your opponents get a few last hits under the tower. Every time you use locust swarm try to hit the enemy hero. Over time this will weaken the enemy hero enough to where they will have to go back to their base or allow you to get an easy gank.

Roaming

There isn't really much of a reason for you to gank until level 6, since without Exorcism you can't dish out high damage very quickly. It is typically more effective to instead just push down the tower on your lane before you begin to roam, so that it will be harder for your opponent to notice.

mid-late game items

The Eul's Scepter of Divinity is a great item to get on death prophet. The 30 movement speed on normal heroes doesn't do a lot, but with death prophet's passive. You are able to move at extreme speeds, especially if you have Phase Boots.
After the Euls normally comes Platemail followed by a Heart of Tarrasque. The platemail comes before the heart simply due to the cost of the Reaver. If the other team focuses you much then you will find it very difficult to get enough gold to get the Reaver.
After you get the heart, you should work towards finishing the Shiva's Guard. This item will give you the extra boost of intelligence that will make spamming locust swarm very easy.

Team fights

Death Prophet has a good team fight ability with her Silence and Exorcism. She can also weaken the enemy team with locust swarm. If the game goes on to long you will find that you can't do any damage anymore with your spells. In this situation it becomes better to solo push a lane while the rest of your team fights.

Solo push

If you find yourself beginning to push one lane while the rest of your team fights, then you will want to get a Shadow Blade. You can also get Boots of Travel if you want to.
Death prophet is generally a great pusher, since her locust swarm will destroy regular creep waves in under 5 seconds as well as Exorcism just murdering towers in about 10 seconds. I found that if I am left alone for 30 secs at level 16 I am able to destroy the tier 3 tower and both racks before Exorcism wears off.
The main reason to solo push is to hopefully pull a couple heroes off of their main group to allow your teammates to wipe the rest of their team. If they don't try to fight you, then you can just freely murder their base.

situational items

These items can be used freely to substitute for other items. Once you acquire the Eul's Scepter of Divinity then you can make a Shadow Blade any time after that depending on the situation. The Boots of Travel are also a good substitute for Phase Boots if you have some extra gold. death prophet is also a great carrier for the Gem of True Sight, since she is a fairly tanky hero who can escape very easily.
An alternate use for the Shadow Blade that not many people use it for is that if you activate Exorcism then the Shadow Blade then your army of spirits are free to murder randomly while you just watch safely while invisible. This can be used in order to get the other team to waste their powder on you and enable your stealth hero a chance to freely attack them, or just to deal heavy damage if they don't have any stealth detection items.

why shadow blade and euls and why no bloodstone

A lot of people don't like how I didn't include bloodstone and included shadow blade so i felt that I should justify it here rather than in the comments. I am a low-mid tier player so I don't know how this build scales to the high tier games.
I use the Shadow Blade in the rare circumstances. For instance if you are doing a split push while the rest of your team fights, then they will have to dedicate multiple heroes to stop you while the rest of your team pushes. If they try to destroy you then focus your team the shadow blade can be used to make a quick escape before they can use the dusts/stuns. The other advantage to a shadow blade is that if the other team has to have someone carrying dust then that will be 1 less slot for a different item that could hurt your team more. If your team has a stealth hero already then the shadow blade is pretty much worthless.
I chose the euls over the other items like the scythe, simply because it has a low cost and the ability to cast it on yourself. If the other team tries to rush you and you just need a couple seconds of invulnerability for the rest of your team to jump them then the euls works wonders. I rarely use the euls on my opponents. The only time it is really decent on opponents is to prevent 1 enemy hero from retreating for a little bit so your team can kill him. It is mainly just a self survival weapon with a movement speed boost to keep you moving around the other team throwing out your ultimate. It is also a cheep mana regeneration item that will allow you to invest in other durability items.
The Bloodstone is a good item. I just don't like to use it on Death Prophet. The reason is that dp needs mana regeneration in the early game and the bloodstone just costs to much gold. I found that in the late game I get enough mana regen from the euls to last almost indefinitely on the front lines. It is just more economical in my opinion to get euls and a Platemail than to get the bloodstone.

Guide Discussion
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Quote | PM | +Rep by PotM_Plz » August 6, 2012 2:29pm | Report
Please take that shadow blade, and throw it as far as you possibly can. If you really want some escape or initiarion. Get a force staff.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by PotM_Plz » August 6, 2012 2:32pm | Report
And also I like starting with arcane boots, and then dissacembling into travels wonce u have bloodstone

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Draconie » August 6, 2012 3:56pm | Report
I just cant stand bloodstone, since it just costs way to much for what you get. I use shadow blade, because you can leave exorcism active while you have shadow blade so that you can just murder the other team. If they have stealth detection then they are just wasting gold on that. I use shadow blade not just for the intiation, but rather to do high risk heavy pushes.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by mrwiliker » August 6, 2012 5:58pm | Report
wow nice that makes alot of sence conedering i dont know **** about dp soo yah

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Svenphantom » August 6, 2012 6:00pm | Report
I concur, the Shadow blade is better than the Force Staff in the case of Death Prophet with the fact that you can leave Exorcism while their team is helpless but to run away, which her massive movement will just be futile.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Peebze » August 6, 2012 6:27pm | Report
PotM_Plz wrote:

Please take that shadow blade, and throw it as far as you possibly can. If you really want some escape or initiarion. Get a force staff.


You really underestimate the use of a Shadow Blade on Prophet. If your team has no other stealth units and the enemy does not buy any stealth detection because of this, you can wreck a team by popping it and letting your ghosts burn the enemy down. It may not be the most /optimal/ item for Prophet, but I'd take it over a force staff in most situations.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Sefi » August 7, 2012 12:15am | Report
I think a Shadow Blade on Death Prophet is very innovative; I've personally never heard of it before but can just imagine reaping the benefits. A decent team will be able to figure out where you are just based on your ghosts and they can freely pop dust, but it makes it near impossible for the enemy to prevent you from pushing a tower if they don't have it, and if they aren't paying attention you could push a lane from your base to theirs without them even seeing you.

I prefer a Scythe of Vyse over Eul's on DP because the critter will still get hit by ghosts whereas a cycloned target won't, but it all depends on how much farm you can get.

I also like taking a point in the Silence rather than the fifth point in Locust Swarm because early game Death Prophet isn't quite as tanky as she will be late game, and it's especially helpful if I'm in mid against a Lion who wants to pop his ******ed Finger of Death on me.
But that's basic playstyle difference and to each their own.

But I REALLY like the Shadow Blade idea and will have to try it sometime.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by jaslam » August 7, 2012 2:58am | Report
hmm.. very low/mid skill level train of thought here. I understand why a shadow blade is a great item, but then why don't the pro's build it on prophet? It is an old item, nothing new which makes it any better or worse? this is pub item, no-one get's shadow blades anymore :P
anyway..
Why don't they? because look at prophets core items, she is built as a tank. You can't tank skills, attacks, dmg in general when your invis. and if your invis, then someone else is going to be on the receiving end of this damage - who isn't a tank, and they will die.
Dota is a team fight game, know your role and commit to it - if you die, but your team win, that's all that matters. prophet is a tank. initiate, take the damage, make sure your team live, clean up and push - this is also why her ulti's heal her, because the chances are she is near death towards the end of the clash.
know your role/place within a team synergy and what is needed of you..
This is a good build for new/pub players but I wouldn't suggest it on a mid level player looking to take prophet to better skill levels..

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Hades4u » August 7, 2012 3:50am | Report
Draconie wrote:

I just cant stand bloodstone, since it just costs way to much for what you get. I use shadow blade, because you can leave exorcism active while you have shadow blade so that you can just murder the other team. If they have stealth detection then they are just wasting gold on that. I use shadow blade not just for the initiation, but rather to do high risk heavy pushes.


While you are invisible, you know the enemy team can use Dust of Appearance or Gem of True Sight right? Or other abilities to see you.

So it's better to save up all that gold you spend on Shadow blade (3300 I believe) and get a Bloodstone that gives you a lot of regeneration, a lot of HP and Mana and spawns you faster, a lot of stacks is like a free buyback.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Draconie » August 7, 2012 9:25am | Report
The shadow blade is more of an optional item based on the circumstances. The main build is based on getting the platemail with the euls for the same price as a bloodstone. I found that in my games +10 armor is better than 500 health. Then if you can follow it up with a heart you just become a crazy tank. The shadow blade is mainly for doing solo lane pushes if you found yourself not doing well in teamfights, which happens to dp in the late game.

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