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Forum » General Discussion » Who has the best aghs upgrade? 42 posts - page 3 of 5
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » April 15, 2015 4:15pm | Report
Fedorable wrote:

Personally, I am not a fan of Skywrath Mage's scepter upgrade simply because it's pointless to me. 0 second cooldown seems nice and all... until you take into account that a level 3 Mystic Flare costs 800 mana, meaning that you might be able to get 2 or 3 ultis off in a team fight, so as long as you don't use any other spells (since skywrath usually sits around 1800-2000 mana at max level, if he get the right items). So yeah, Dragonus scepter is more of a gimmick to me.

It's an ASU for core Rooster Mage, not support. Still pretty situational though.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KrDotoBestDoto » April 15, 2015 4:38pm | Report
Aghs Skywrath with regen rune is the dream.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sando » April 15, 2015 4:50pm | Report
I think cos Tree's is relatively new, we all forget how awesome it is :)

Think we can all agree Sand King's is pretty suck, but I'm not really sold on Gyrocopter or Jakiro's either. Gyro's has suck damage, and he's a right click hero anyway, so Aghs is not terribly appropriate (even on a support gyro, I'd want to try and transistion). Global range for pickoffs...yah maybe, but you think they'll pay off that 4200 gold cost?

Jakiro's - increased size and duration is great...slight buff to damage...however, despite it lasting 14 seconds now, you still only have 2.2 seconds of stun. You better have a lot of AOE disable on your team, or some massively stupid opponents.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » April 15, 2015 5:01pm | Report
Sando wrote:

I'm not really sold on Gyrocopter


Global range counterpush. How is that bad? Aghs gyro instantly clears creep waves from global range, it's for killing creeps not heroes. Death to rat dota :)
Increases your farm, gives HP and mana making it a legit alternative to drum, allows you to turtle against a pushing lineup...
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sando » April 15, 2015 5:16pm | Report
Hmm...maybe 425 damage (maybe nets 2-3 creep kills on average?) every 55 seconds doesn't really seem all that stellar. Ok, goes to 625 every 45 seconds later on. Health/mana are quite nice for an agi hero, but 10 damage ain't much for 4200 gold, especially on a hero who's so dependent on raw damage.

HotD for less than half the gold seems a better deal, stack camps, ancients etc and farm em with Flak Cannon, and has obvious utility later on, builds into Satanic etc.

As you say, maybe, just maybe against ratters or if you're forced into turtling.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » April 15, 2015 6:08pm | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

You mean offlane tree, Tide style. And I thought about Aghs rush tree when the patch came out, back when people were flaming me for not going blink so fak you ;)

He can get tons of farm with early aghs but the only issue is that the hero doesn't scale that well with farm. Refresher Orb, Blink Dagger, and there the hero is pretty much maxed out. Of course you can go shivas/halberd/sheep/blademail and stuff but it's not that impactful. There is no such thing as right-click tree and no matter how you play him he's essentially a walking ult.

So yeah play him as the new tide and go **** up the last hits of the enemy safe lane with your 100 base damage.

i tried offlane, you wont get much.
and its all about DAT global setup.
as an offlane tree you wont get more gold then as support unless you get space. SO SAFELANE TREE IT IS!!!

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by R-Conqueror » April 15, 2015 7:15pm | Report
Woah this thread got really active, cool!

After readin all yours I'll adjust my top ones. Meepo, Tony, WD and Treat have pretty sick upgrades. I forget the exact number on the max damage of a WD ult but it is toooooo high
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by kkoopman3 » April 15, 2015 7:24pm | Report
This probably wouldn't be considered the best Agh's upgrade but, for me at least, it's the coolest. Treant Protector's Agh's is awesome and can allow you to participate in teamfights from across the map. (Plus the neutral creep instafarming is real.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Swixcap » April 19, 2015 11:37am | Report
Timminatorr wrote:
OMG HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS AND HOW HASNT ANYBODY SAID THIS EARLIER.
SAFELANE TREE WITH 14 MIN AGHS BEST TREE.
Not to brag, but... I totally said Tree's was the best like.. so far back there. So..


Anyways, the worst Agh's upgrades is fun to look at as well! Much harder too, imo... Everything's situational of course, but here are some suggestions:
Luna, Gyrocopter, Nature's Prophet, Undying, Shadow Demon Meepo (He only gets one more! That's just 25% better)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » April 19, 2015 11:41am | Report
Swixcap wrote:

Anyways, the worst Agh's upgrades is fun to look at as well! Much harder too, imo... Everything's situational of course, but here are some suggestions:
Luna, Gyrocopter, Nature's Prophet, Undying, Shadow Demon Meepo (He only gets one more! That's just 25% better)


Did you just use the words 'bad Aghs' and 'Shadow Demon' in the same sentence?
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