Naga Support

I was playing DotA with 2 friends of mine last night and chose naga siren. I went bot lane with a bane and proceeded to farm as the hard carry. I bought items to start a hard carry and was taking the farm were i could. About 7-8 minutes in he goes off to help other lanes at which point i got ganked 3 times over. It was apparent the other team was trying to shut me down. I told my team i needed to be babysat in lane for a few minutes to farm at which point my friend said
"what are you talking about? Why would we babysit you?"
i told him
"cause im the carry i need farm"
to which both my friends responded
"Dude you are support, the Viper and NP on our team will carry us"
i tried to explain to them that naga is a carry and he responded
"Naga 'CAN' be a carry, but we need you to play a naga support"
i tried to explain there is no such thing as a naga support. Naga is a hard carry only in any pro or pub game i have ever seen. My friend insisted my character was all abilities, what did i need gold for. He insisted naga could be a support all night so i just left the party after the game. All i want to know is was i in the right? Should i have tried to play a naga support? Or is naga a carry only hero? Recognize, we had a pugna and bane, 2 much btr supporting heroes.

Why did this double post?

No. Naga Siren was always a carry. Because when Critical Strike was replaced with Rip Tide it was then players started to play her as support. Doesn't matter anyway she is still top tier 1 Carry and your friends were to dumb or as if they started Dota few months ago and they don't know anything yet. The problem with Naga Siren is because she is item dependant and needs farm. Similar heroes who need farm like Naga Siren are Sven, Dragon Knight, Bloodseeker etc.

In THAT lineup she should be played as a hard carry as obviously viper will be mid.

When i do draft her, i only take her as support though as there are better carries the pool.

I'm surprised you've never seen her played as a Support, have you only just started watching competetive matches? Support was her most popular Role in Competetive, especially during TI3, until recently when Carry Naga made a comeback.

I've seen her played as a Mid back in 6.79, it was fun watching Liquid.TC wreck a Queen of Pain and get Runes at whichever spawn point he was camping X{D I've even seen her played as an Offlaner...although that was much less impressive.

Naga Siren is best as a Carry, but she's still a viable Support, so yes you should have played her as a Support, because...

Pugna is not a Support Hero, he makes a far worse Support than Naga, he's pretty useless without levels.

Naga can at least use her Illusions to scout, Ensnare to stop Heroes (and Couriers 8{D), not to mention Song of the Siren is an amazing "panic button" to get your Team out of a tight situation, or even for Initiation.

Also, having Pugna, Viper and Nature's Prophet as Cores allows you to Push hard and fast very early on. It's easy to see a lineup like that taking all the Tier 2 Towers before 20:00.

Why would you ever want to use her as a support? What do you build and why? You dont get anything out if it shes a far better carry.

Why would you ever play pugna as a support? That is dreadfull.
Naga Siren support is actually very common, don listen to f.e.a.r he is our forum jester.
So is Alchemist, he is actually better as a support or utility mid then a hard carry now, so your friends were right.

I still really like naga as a carry but she can be a really strong support, during TI3 she was the best support in the game along with wisp and visage.

Why would you play support naga that game? Well first off you needed a support, second she can be really usefull since she is really strong in trilane vs trilane becouse of her riptide, a long disable with ensnare, high armor and movespeed.

Illusions can be used to scout, stack, block and using riptide ofcourse.
She has an EXTREMELY strong anti BKB disable,
A nuke that amplifies damage.
And the strongest spell in the game, Song of the Siren (apart from maybe Natural Order) if used correctly.

You get wand, arcanes, and various utility items. Urn, mekanism, vlads, halberd, force staff, blink dagger. sometimes even diffusal to purge disables and a little extra damage.

There are two lane setups I can see with this lineup:

1) Viper mid, pugna/bane/naga tri (looking to push ASAP, pugna farms), NP solo

2) Pugna mid, viper/bane/naga aggro tri (viper farms), NP solo safe

Either way Naga is a support.

The main this is that having a Nature's Prophet on the team means whoever the carry is will end up with less farm due to Wrath of Nature pushing lanes, and a carry Naga Siren is far too gold-dependent to coexist with an NP.

This pretty much sums it up.

This might sound weird to someone who doesnt watch professional games but prophet bad in the jungle position. It means that you have only 1 support.

A JUNGLER SHOULD PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS BE A SUPPORT.