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Forum » Theory Crafting » Shadowblade on Templar Assassin? 14 posts - page 2 of 2
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wonderbawlz » October 5, 2014 7:47pm | Report
and Blink Dagger also increases ur farming speed as the above poster stated.

You can just blink from camp to camp a lot quick and farm lanes so much better. i mean hey if you like loathers go for it, but honestly its just a waste, you gotta wait another 2/4 minutes to farm it which can cost you some games. It's probably a troll fun build if you are just stacking with friends, but if you;re trying to improve, i suggest just sticking to 'pro' builds or watch Wagamama's TA video

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » October 5, 2014 9:49pm | Report
Wonderbawlz wrote:

The last time I saw Loathers templar when i first got calibrated at 2.8

I'm 4.5 now and If you aren't going Blink Dagger you've got serious mechanical/ game knowledge misinterpretations


Hamstertamer wrote:

I've seen (a lot of people) saying not to buy Shadow Blade on TA but I'm not really convinced by the reasons why.


Patronizing is not an argument and does not convince me in any way. I know how to play TA, and I have watched not only Waga's videos but all his streams as well. I don't care much about your MMR and besides it doesn't impress me. I'm just trying a different build because as I said in the OP I'm not entirely convinced by the "racecar" TA build which is easily countered by TP scrolls and lacks initiation among other issues, problems that I faced several times by playing her this way.

Blink Dagger is situational on every hero and core only on dedicated initiators. As I said previously, blink TA is a good build and that's not the question ; I was just wondering about the best way of building a "non blink" TA. A hero can't have only one possible build, you need to have several options to be able to adapt to the situation, e.g if you're up against Spectre, Silencer, Ancient Apparition, any Radiance user, Venomancer, the 6.82 Vengeful Spirit...your blink is going to be disabled half of the time anyways, so is it still a good choice?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » October 5, 2014 11:56pm | Report
ok so ill help all of you out a bit here by going the ole' LOGICAL way.

Shadow Blade


3000Gold
+22 Damage
+30 Attack Speed
Active: Shadow Walk - invisible for 9 seconds. you move 20% faster with phase. If you break the invisibility with an attack, you will deal 175 bonus Physical damage.

so breaking it down we get.

- Burst
- Escape
- Initiation
- Damage
- Attack Speed

sounds pretty good huh?
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now lets look at the other one.

Blink Dagger


2250Gold
Active: Blink - Teleport the caster to a target point up to 1200 units away. Cannot be used if the carrier has taken damage.

breaking it down again.

- Mobility
- Escape
- increased farming speed
- Initiation SUPRISE MUTHA***A

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Now lets look at the hero.

- huge amounts of innate burst
- invisibility ability
- Dps
- Survivability

so now we look at the synergy between the two.

1). one is an invis ability. you already have one so technically basing it purely on that you have cancelled out 50% of Shadow Blades Utility.
2). Your looking at close to 1000 gold more for shadow blade. but you get attack speed and damage. with the equal costing for those are around 1850 gold your looking at cost efficiency in favour of the Shadow blade.
3). initiation where shadow blade requires you to get within striking distance blink does not.
competent teams will notice you with shadow blade and take precautions. Blink allows you to initiate from cover.
4). escape.... same as above. competent teams will notice the items and again buy dust and sentries WHICH they should have anyway since you are a TA.

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THOUGHTS



Though the Shadow Blade provides better COST efficiency then Blink Dagger. the overall gameplay of TA leans towards a Blink Dagger. these reasons are three fold.

1). you already have an INVISIBILITY MECHANIC ... do not stack upon this as buy doing so you are basically screaming to the enemy ..COUNTER ME COUNTER ME. they might not buy dust for your Meld but if you buy a Shadow Blade they will definitely buy it for BOTH.

2). The Ability to attack from complete cover is something not to be trifled with.. the Approach though is where the difference shows. by having to RUN up to them to attack them you are leaving your self open to a random sentry or necronomicon or a gem carrier or hell maybe even a paranoid dust. BUT if you are hidden in the trees the RISK associated with your approach is basically nothing since you wont be able to be counter initiated on since there is no way for them to see you coming. (unlesss ... BLODCYKA!!

3). the synergy provided by blink is multitude where as though the synergy provided by shadow blade is still high it just doesnt provide as much in terms of POSSIBLE SAFE ACTIONS. where as a shadow blade has many possible actions they are inherently UNSAFE since it can be countered.


DEEP THOUGHTS LIKE CRAZY DEEP MAYNNEEEE:

PUBS: Shadow blade that **** brah since NO ONE BUYS DUST IN PUBS!!!!!

RANKED or TEAM PLAY/SERIOUS PLAY: Blink dagger or nothing bro.

I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL.... WITH FLUFFY BUNNIES


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wonderbawlz » October 6, 2014 7:07pm | Report
I give up,. Loaters i. General is just not good. Its expensive, and if you want the attack speed just go midad or ac or something, and if you want the escape u go blink. Its really not that hard. Would u pay 100€ for a bike that has only 1 gear, or a 60€ bike that has multiple?.

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