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Best Comeback Heroes

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Cuttleboss » February 18, 2016 4:40pm | Report
I've been playing a few games lately, many of which have been rather one sided. Though recently, I've been running into my snowballing being stopped by some rather popular pub heroes.

So, today, I'm asking, who do you think are the best comeback heroes? I made a poll with 15 heroes on it:

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=56c65ab7e4b0f33c4ec6fcc6

On this list, I have a few heroes:

Zeus, one of the 2 meta heroes who can play multiple roles, this guy outputs so much damage its crazy, making him great ahead, but also a deadly high ground defense hero with his ult and arc lightning (especially since his passive deals percentage based damage). Zeus seems to be the hero that even when I snowball against him and I rush a Pipe, if he can still nuke down my allies, he still easily turns the game around.

Spectre, consistently the best pub carry because of how disgustingly well she scales with farm, and how much chaos she can create in a second with her ult. Spectre is the type of hero who can get back into the game with a good usage of her ult, and her late game is the consistently best of all heroes.

Medusa is the other hardest carry, scaling narrowly less than Spectre, but she can farm quickly and she can defend high ground, super creeps, and even megas with ease. Plus, she can punish you really hard for going on her with her stone gazes.

Chaos Knight is the third hero of a similar vein to the above 2, though its a bit earlier, and his item scaling is unbelievable for his ultimate. A CK with some levels and his ult ready can beat many heroes that are significantly more farmed than him (if they are not a hero that directly counters him), just relying on his brute force.

Doom is a pretty good comeback hero because his ultimate can stop the enemies if only one person is snowballing, which can often be the case. Plus, his late game is really incredible, and he's rarely completely broke.

Anti-Mage is a decent comeback hero if the enemies have intelligence heroes, preferably cores that expend a lot of their own mana, since he can punish them very hard and maybe get their streaks. Besides that, he pushes quickly and can make his own map space pretty well.

Sniper is a possible comeback hero (if you remember that 6.83 era) because of his great high ground defense capabilities, and his ultimate making it possible that during one of those dives, he may get a streak or at least a kill or two.

Earthshaker is a hero that is pretty good at coming back too, since he has not only good anti-push, his stuns are very good at punishing the enemies diving, and he is an exceptional force late game as well.

Necrophos punishes diving hard, his skills are still effective even if he's losing, since most of them are % based, and mistakes against Necro are extremely costly because of his extra 30 seconds of death.

Ancient Apparition is one of a few supports that seems really good for coming back, since his ultimate stops regeneration, which means that it punishes enemy dives really hard, and he is also strong at defending his base with it too.

Wraith King also seems like a potentially good comeback hero, mainly because he has 2 lives, making him really good against burst damage, and the heroes most likely to snowball are burst damage heroes. Plus he's just really strong midgame.

Enigma, because his late game is incredible, and Black Hole is amazing.

Magnus, because his late game is incredible, and RP is amazing. Also, he can pull people to his team in those big high ground pushes, especially good paired with....

Techies, who honestly is even harder to high ground against than before, ever since he got infinite land mines.

Elder Titan, his counterinitiation skills are godly, natural order is hilariously powerful as the game goes on, and earth splitter is percent based.

So, who do you think is the best comeback hero? Or your favorite if you want to talk about it. It doesn't have to be in the list, obviously.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » February 18, 2016 5:36pm | Report
Surprised you didn't mention Ember Spirit

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Cuttleboss » February 18, 2016 5:39pm | Report
You'd think so, but Embers have been losing me so many games lately, and the problem he has is the same as Tinker or Kunkka, he has defense powers, but no tower pushing, so even though you can drag out the game, if you're losing, you are not very likely to actually turn the game around.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » February 18, 2016 6:10pm | Report
Assuming you're not completely steamrolled early on, Terrorblade is amazing at high ground defence. Because they're all clumping up at tier 3s, Reflection is a sickening harass/counterpush/initiation spell, plus he can easily defend against mega creeps. And if he does get an opening, say goodbye to your rax.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KEEP CALM AND FEED » February 18, 2016 8:37pm | Report
Terathiel wrote:

Assuming you're not completely steamrolled early on, Terrorblade is amazing at high ground defence. Because they're all clumping up at tier 3s, Reflection is a sickening harass/counterpush/initiation spell, plus he can easily defend against mega creeps. And if he does get an opening, say goodbye to your rax.

And you can easily rat the other set of T3 when both teams are 5 manning up. Just send your illusions to other towers while you stay with team. So much fun, people whining about rats.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » February 18, 2016 11:59pm | Report
Most of the time Zeus isn't given the chance to come back because he's completely useless against a carry with 6-7 sec bkb who just hits his tower. Most of the time they lose 40 min in when enemy carry has enough tower damage output and when T3 is done it's a lot easier to get the rax down. Lategame he deals damage too slowly to be good. Not a good comeback hero.

Spectre is not a hardcarry anymore, and people don't even play her like one. She is a good early->midgame comeback hero and she can drag the game late if no good splipushers are present in the enemy team but not a traditional "drag the game to 50 min when we are stronger" typeof comeback hero. If she has no early game advantage, Spectre usually comes back midgame with Haunt kills and snowballs from there on or doesn't come back at all.

Wraith King is a supbar comeback hero, him wiping out enemy team on hg and pushing back is more of exception than the rule - usually if you lose a fight with WK in it you're going to lose it on highround too because of kiting/manaburn/whatever. This hero is really bad when his earlygame goes poorly.

Agreed on everything else, I'd add Naga, Terrorblade and Arc Warden in there, also Invoker since he's one of the best carries. Kunkka is extremely good at highround defending and can splitpush and hit towers really well and pretty safe if he has BoTs+Blink, optionally Moon Shard and has a good comeback mechanism with Divine but it's really a gamble and you're unlikely to win if your safelane carry is ****. Same with Ember. Tinker is also good for this though he loses without a good carry almost 100% of the time. Pudge is a good comeback hero because he can hook a key target during hg siege and destroy it, Slark wins almost any long teamfight and is a great lategame/comeback carry since his agi stacks last for 120 second which means he can very quickly obliterate towers and bought back heroes after a teamwipe.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » February 19, 2016 6:10am | Report
Sniper - It was the heroes whole gimmick in 6.83 using the fact he's really really good at high ground to get kills get comeback gold and be ahead. The hero is pretty bad right now, but it's still his purpose as a hero.

Honestly being a good late game hero isn't what defines a good comeback hero, it's abut high-ground defence. The better you can defend high ground, the harder it is for the enemy to close the game, and the more likely you can close a gold gap and comeback. So stuff like wave-clear, good initiation, or even high amounts of solo pick potential can all qualify for being good at come backs.

Well a come-back line-up at least; Generally yes late game heroes have a leg up here since they'll scale better off of items, but if you don't have the sort of frame-work in your line-up to extend the game.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » February 19, 2016 6:56am | Report
Tidehunter with the new Agh's ia a pain in the butt to push highground against. :P

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Krwiozerca » February 19, 2016 11:39am | Report
Where is Naga Siren?

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