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I even played solo offlane PA once just to screw around, sitting back and getting last hits from afar with dagger. I mean, 1200 range and 6-second cooldown, it really makes you want to do that. Got pretty decent farm like about 30 cs in 10 min, didn't feed. Get
Troll build, or actually (semi) viable? I let you decide. No matter what it's really fun xD
From experience, I prefer
Could use a more detailed friends and foes section. Foes : anyone with a stun, because PA is way too BKB-dependent and will have a 4-second BKB in no time. Friends : buff placers (
Max
Desolator actually sounds pretty amazing on her, I will have to try it. I'm not sure rushing it is a good idea, though, because the buildup takes a while.
EDIT: Oops, realized it's a unique attack modifier, so it won't work with Morbid Mask. If someone else gets Vlad's, you can get it.
I don't really see a scenario in which you'd get Daedelus because of its cost and small benefits; I would just continue piling on attack speed to proc more crits.
Yup,
HoT is a good option, probably, since for real, her weakness is the nukes and stuns. I tried the Cloak -> HoD, and it probably helped, but isn't super effective. Really, it takes some playing smart to avoid getting nuked to death.
Xyrus, your comments on the
Like I said, only get it if the other team has illusions. Period. That said, if they have illusions, you'll own them with it. Meepo is a joke.
I can see how the HotD can be useful, but thank you for noticing the subtlety! We purposely skip it, because there are so much more cost-effective items to use that 900g on, rather than measly armor and a *chance* at killing some extra creeps. Come on, people, we're in low-level pubs, how many people are going to stack creeps that well? (I don't.) Furthermore, that misses the point completely - as mentioned, PA is not farm-hungry, she's hero-killing hungry. The extra 900g is half of what she needs for, say a Hyper Stone. Don't delay that stuff! It'll help you kill heroes, keep the enemies down, and your team up.
Yes, I think
To sum up, PA is good at killing heros, early, mid, and late game, and that's what she should do. Thank you for your comments! I will be adding to the guide and tweaking the items later today.
PA is obviously still amazing in the very late game, but now she can be played more aggressive in the mid-game and I don't see much point in farming builds on her anymore. She's really not the
If you're ultra-fed, there are much better options than
Also, while you do mention
Krwiozerca, you're right that Battle Fury is overrated and I had the hardest time putting it in core because of its steep price. Maelstrom is indeed amazing and it was really a tossup because I do have Mjollnir and Hyperstone in there.
Agreed,
PS: you right-click the item to get it off the build
Please, never do this though. You're essentially Farming an Item so you can Farm another Item so you can Farm some more with the 1st Item...it's as ridiculous to do as it is to say 8((
If you go
P.S. I personally don't like HotD at all, not matter which Hero its built on..but then again every game, the other Team always goes for my Ancients...every...time...even if I don't Stack... ._.
Thanks for the feedback; I don't have the stamina to play many games, but I watch a lot and I wrote this guide because if you look at other highly rated ones here, they have, for example, Shadow Blade, HotD, and Vlad's in core, plus no tips on how to play PA. I humbly think this guide is the best I've read on here. I will add to the guide based on comments, just wanted to hear what's really needed and keep it to the essentials at first.
Its best to stick to Items which you know work, and most importantly, how they work. If you can't understand how something works, you can never explain it to someone else other than "well, I saw XXX do it, so it must be legit". You seem to have the right attitude towards making a good guide. 8{)
Illumination0110, I do apologize for the Shadow Blade. That was a last minute late night decision based on PA's difficulty pushing alone, and pushing is so important in this meta.
If the Bonus Damage from
Butterfly is OK on PA, and the evasion does stack, but diminishingly. It's hella gold though, and you dont benefit as much from the evasion so I'd only get it as a last item if I have too much farm.
Agreed, your Evasion will inevitably get countered anyway, and 50% is massive enough, not much point to
By the way, how do I take items off the build??
When editing the Items you've added should be in a 10 x 2 grid. Simply click on the one you want to remove to remove it.
I'm not sure if that leaves a gap, so I always remove everything to the right of that and re-add it, just in case. 8{(
PS: you right-click the item to get it off the build
Krwiozerca, you're right that Battle Fury is overrated and I had the hardest time putting it in core because of its steep price. Maelstrom is indeed amazing and it was really a tossup because I do have Mjollnir and Hyperstone in there.
Thanks for the feedback; I don't have the stamina to play many games, but I watch a lot and I wrote this guide because if you look at other highly rated ones here, they have, for example, Shadow Blade, HotD, and Vlad's in core, plus no tips on how to play PA. I humbly think this guide is the best I've read on here. I will add to the guide based on comments, just wanted to hear what's really needed and keep it to the essentials at first.
Illumination0110, I do apologize for the Shadow Blade. That was a last minute late night decision based on PA's difficulty pushing alone, and pushing is so important in this meta.
Butterfly is OK on PA, and the evasion does stack, but diminishingly. It's hella gold though, and you dont benefit as much from the evasion so I'd only get it as a last item if I have too much farm.
Other lanes probably work with this play style, but you can't get early kills as easily in mid because of the short distance to the tower. In pros I'm sure it'd be hard to do even in safe lane so I can see how mid might work just for farming and levels. Also, yes, then PA can gank.
Regarding maxing Blur earlier, I can't see why you'd need so much more evasion so early, and the early kills and escape given by the blink are invaluable.
Thank you all for the comments, I'm on my phone right now so editing is hard and I'll keep working on it!
Just be sure to max
The evasion is so rediculous now.
That was just what i thought. First dagger, then evasion. Thx timm. Ill search if i can find videos.
He won the 2 last grand final games with it but both were mostly farmfests.
The day before that he also played her mid and they didnt have an answer to for it. They lacked nuke damage and she just sliced everyone while they were ignoring her in fights becouse she was almost unkillable.
Just be sure to max
The evasion is so rediculous now.
This guide couldve been mine...I always like Mjollnir and AC for the dps.
But then...BKB. Youre not an initiator. If you jump in the middle of a fight, it will be over before the enemy can realise.
My favorite hero.
You must be thinking of Situations where you Blinked in and Critted a Support with Cleave taking out an entire Team, foolishly clumped together, before they could think to Stun you.
Smarter players won't clump up, and there should always be 2 or 3 that can Stun you, or at least stop you from getting any attacks off somehow, that is what BKB is for
i lol'd. bkb is CORE on PA because of her abbysmal str growth and tendency to be burst down at the start of the game.
The Strength Gain has nothing to do with it tbh, it's all about being able to fight without getting Locked down.