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You can argue that all of Invo's spells are ********.

An "I'm impossible to manfight mid, won't let you cast a non-zero cast point spell and if you're melee mid you can delete the game" spell? Check.

A "hello I am fat as ****, melt armor, cost no mana, give marginal bonty and have no downtime and I've come to **** your lane up" spell? Check.

A "cool dust bro I still have 522 MS" spell? Check.

A "enjoy your 100 MS while being spell immune" spell? Check.

A... ok EMP is fine I guess.

An "AOE Eul's that will dispel every buff you have and will reach you on the other side of the map, gl trying to chase or escape me ***" spell? Check.

An "I make Dazzle a good ganker" spell? Check)though it's mostly fine too IMO).

An "I make Dazzle a good carry and pusher" spell? Check.

A "DISREGARD EVERYTHING I WILL JUST OBLITERATE YOU WITH MY 10000000 DAMAGE ROCK" spell? Check.

A "circular wave of ****ing pain and suffering and unability to do anything even if you are 6-slotted" spell? Check-check-check-check-CHECK!

Nice hero.

The only thing this patch has done is showing how easy Invoker is to play. Before I was like "holy **** that hero is difficult" now he is litterly the easiest hero ever.

Added to the list, I can't believe I forgot that one. Literally an infinite duration Shukuchi that even slows enemies for ez kiting.

Alacrity is not what makes Invoker's right-click damage in lane OP, it's Exort damage that needs a nerf to compensate for the free level he gets and his buffed INT gain, that's why exort is in the list. It should scale like 1/4/7/10/etc instead of 3/6/9/12/etc. At least. Or even give 0 damage at the first level.

Forge Spirit could arguably be on the OSFrog list, since those things are crazy strong for summons. Trying to kill them as a support is just... saddening. Truly saddening once Invoker gets decent Exort levels up.

Or at least up the gold bounty to like 100, or 75 or something.

So thats how i get people to talk about their pain.

Much appreciated.
OSfrog out.

Definitely. What's OP is that Invoker can push out lanes and rat with them all game long. Kind of like Lycan wolves.
Their fighting stats aren't OP, just their rat power. So bounty should be more like necrobook bounty, not lane creep bounty.

ALso, Forge Spirit Melting Strike shouldn't go through BKB.

Bounty increase won't really help when he rats, only early-game. Forges' CD is 30, duration is 80 at max lvl. He can just instantly resummon them if they are in danger which semi-decent Invo always does.

I feel like the bat on the Forge Spirit should be increased, since you can just Alacrity them and melt towers and maybe remove the move slow on Dust of Appearance and just have it straight up negate speed bonuses.

That's a massive **** move to Clinkz, Weaver and Broodmother though, so you can't do that.

It's really Ghost Walk + Wex that's OP because +64% MS instead of +40%. Disable Wex bonus MS during GW, at least. And mute GW slow when Invo is visible.

Weaver can Time Lapse the debuff off, Clinkz is already a good Diffusal Blade carrier and Broodmother is a known Manta Style hero, so it's not all gloom and doom. Still, I think the Forge Spirit and Invoker himself could use a BAT nerf and I feel like he needs to be tweaked in a way that it forces players into choosing a "path" to go rather than just being able to be a master-of-all trades (Kind of like Fallout 4)