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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KEEP CALM AND FEED » January 8, 2017 8:44pm | Report
Hey isn't it frowned upon to ask for reviews , likes and up votes to ones guide? I thought advertising yo guide was also banned.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » January 8, 2017 9:33pm | Report
I do not give likes an upvotes to guides - I merely give suggestions and tips to improve the guides.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ChiChi » January 9, 2017 10:37am | Report
Thank you for your efforts Sofa, you're doing a great job improving the new guides! Just wanted to make sure I told you that, keep it up :)

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by FuriousFish » January 10, 2017 2:36am | Report
TheSofa wrote:


Comments
  • Thanks for pointing out that her attack range is 630, I have promptly fixed it.
  • I really love the depth of info given
  • Your coding is also on fleek :)
  • There are some walls of text - which could be solved by using some colour to highlight text or some pictures to break things up

Questions
  • What did you use to code the items section? I'm assuming a columns and float?

That's all for now, I'll try to look at your other guide later tonight.
~Sofa


For the items section it is done with columns. I got the code from Dr.D's coding guide. In case you were actually talking about the empty space thing, it is done with invisible text. I've tried to lessen the the walls of text us much as possible. Thank you for the review! (I have to admit though, I'm glad you pointed out the Boots of Speed and Power Treads error. I had forgotten to erase it from the base coding. ^^''''')

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You know, you could just start using tables...


I'll try to use them when I'm talking about runes in my guides. I haven't quite understood how to use them yet.

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Hey FuriousFish what do you think about Agh's on Drow?


Well, it is actually more of a 'support' item to me, since if you cast Frost Arrows on one target the splintered arrows have it too, so it is mainly useful in teamfights to slow the entire opposing team. But as she has far too much solo killing potential and could be spending her money on other things than Aghanim's to increase her damage, I will almost never buy it. The only case I would is when my teammates are friends that I know and I have discussed the strategy with them, where I will be autocasting Frost Arrows while they use AoE heroes to wipe out the opposing team.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ChiChi » January 10, 2017 3:19am | Report
Aghanim's Scepter on Drow Ranger is actually a very common pickup nowadays on competitive games, as well as high-level games.

It is usually coupled with a Maelstrom/ Mjollnir, and it increases Drow's damage output while giving her some all round stats. I don't think you should look at it as a supporting build by any means, since at that point Frost Arrows are mostly useless - everyone has a BKB running which will block it, and you will maybe need to toggle it off yourself to be able to life steal (unless that has changed with the last patch? Not sure about it). So what it gives you is an even more amazing push, while very strong team fight presence. You should give it a try, FurryFish!

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » January 10, 2017 4:17am | Report
The Thor build on Drow Ranger doesn't work that well anymore. It got nerfed hard by 7.00.

Maelstrom/ Mjollnir now has a 0.2 second cooldown which allows it to proc only on 1 hit at most. Since you can't have multiple procs anymore it's pretty mediocre now.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ChiChi » January 10, 2017 5:30am | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

The Thor build on Drow Ranger doesn't work that well anymore. It got nerfed hard by 7.00.

Maelstrom/ Mjollnir now has a 0.2 second cooldown which allows it to proc only on 1 hit at most. Since you can't have multiple procs anymore it's pretty mediocre now.


I'm not sure on what you mean with "proc only on 1 hit at most", but since some of the best Drow players keep getting these items even now, I'm not sure you're right about it being mediocre at all (while it is, ofc, like 90% of all things in Dota, situational). As usually, I'll trust these players opinion more than yours, sorry :P

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KEEP CALM AND FEED » January 10, 2017 5:43am | Report
I think hamster has some merit. I also raised this point to which some folks at discord noticed that secondary arrows take more than 0.2 seconds to travel distances more than half the range of split shot.

So technically with a speed of 0.4, drow can get two lightnings every fire if she's lucky.

Frankly this change was bad. Change mjollnir process to PRD and let split shot order be calculated as independent strikes. It was easy to be fixed, and the idiot frog added a cool down.like an idjit

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KEEP CALM AND FEED » January 10, 2017 5:46am | Report
So enemies might get Rekt if they are evenly spaced out , with the Thor build even today. You won't be killing everyone with lightning in a mag rp though.

Now don't mind ChiChi she's gone a bit bonkers with the attention she gets a diss-cord. So she's become a a disser I see. We need you to come over and hog the limelight away please.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » January 10, 2017 6:16am | Report
Before, each of the 3 arrows from Drow's aghs could proc lightning independently. So you could have up to 3 lightning procs on a single attack. That was the thing that made the build strong.

Now Mjollnir has a cooldown like basher does, so multiple procs are way lass likely to happen.
It's still possible to have multiple procs because of Drow's projectile speed, like if she hits an enemy close to her and an enemy at 600 range from her, that can still get a double proc since the two hits will be separated by more than 0.2 seconds.

But all in all it's a big damage reduction. In average the lightning damage got reduced by 25% by removing those multiple procs.

So the synergy with maelstrom is way worse than it used to be.

Is it still viable? Sure. But it's really not that great anymore. Probably better to pick Gyro or something instead.
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