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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by CapnDaft » October 26, 2014 4:11pm | Report
Well guys.
I've 820 hours, I finally decided to do my calibrated games. Basically I won 8 out of 10.



They gave me 1.999k mmr.

I actually just finished to read the thread about "the secret mmr thing".
IT IS my first account and my stats arent too good, in the overall win/loose ratio, like 45% win or something. But good god volvo went hard on me.

How do I escape mmr hell.
Need tips boys...

***** Dont judge my last ogre game, and the ones that will follow, i'm playing with friends irl :D
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » October 26, 2014 4:29pm | Report
i calibrated at level 13 (i know, it was dumb), i got an MMR of 1.4K (go figure buddy). Now, im at level 40 - ish, and my MMR is 2.7K and rising.

win rate: 52.6%

how to escape mmr hell? Improve

link your dotabuff profile. The elders will analyze it and give the required advice

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » October 26, 2014 4:50pm | Report
First thing i notice is, even though you have played 16 games of death prophet, you have managed to do only a maximum of 7000 towe damage,which is kind of less.

Also, stop playing puck.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/978836926

unnecessary Black King Bar as they have only 2 disablers, one of whose disables goes through bkb . Manta Style was a sub-optimal choice since you could have gone Mjollnir, thereby increasing your damage in and out of Omnislash, thoroughly destroying them.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/966317216

played very greedily. 2 battlefurys? as the first 2 main items? nope. make one battlefury, then crit, then second battlefury for maximum efficiency.


basically, bad item choices and decision making.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by CapnDaft » October 26, 2014 4:56pm | Report
KoDyAbAbA wrote:

First thing i notice is, even though you have played 16 games of death prophet, you have managed to do only a maximum of 7000 towe damage,which is kind of less.

Also, stop playing puck.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/978836926

unnecessary Black King Bar as they have only 2 disablers, one of whose disables goes through bkb . Manta Style was a sub-optimal choice since you could have gone Mjollnir, thereby increasing your damage in and out of Omnislash, thoroughly destroying them.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/966317216

played very greedily. 2 battlefurys? as the first 2 main items? nope. make one battlefury, then crit, then second battlefury for maximum efficiency.


basically, bad item choices and decision making.



1. totally agree with you. Although I remember choosing manta for disrupting spells.
2. For the ember spirit game I wanted to try a build that was more unorthodox, something different, I really wanted to see the difference... but yeah it was indeed pretty ****:D

AND OK, WELL, I LIKE PUCK, IM A GOOD ONE NOW, BELIEVE IT OR NOT:C

ps: That's a bit mean, I keep winning more than I loose, so I guess my decision making isnt that bad.. :/ The fact that I play more and more offlane could be somethin to consider too
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by DonnyDonnowitz » October 26, 2014 9:10pm | Report
1st off there is no such thing as MMR hell, it's been proven. The sooner you realize you got calibrated with people of your skill level the sooner you will realize your improvements will effect the outcomes of your games.

The MMR calibration games don't weigh to heavy on where you get calibrated its more on your earlier non-ranked matches that determine your placement.

On the match that was previously discussed...getting a manta just to disjoint spells is a ridiculous waste of gold, especially on a hero who has a built in BKB with blade spin. His illusions are squishy as hell and don't put out **** for damage, especially considering your items. Play to a heroes strengths not their weaknesses.

Avoid captains mode as well, especially at that MMR people won't have a clue how to draft. Go All Pick and try to claim a spot with your most effective heroes. I went up 900 MMR with my best heroes.

I highly suggest watching pro-matches and streams as well as trying to stay up to date on the current meta.

EDIT: Also not sure why you built a daedalus on magnus in your last match. The guy is a piss poor carry, but even if you were playing him as carry you should still get a refresher orb first. But I'm not even sure why they drafted magnus when you had an ES and a Cent. That's just overkill on team fight plus their rubick pick means he cant go wrong with a spell steal and all those abilities require melee range meaning if your didn't get the void he gets an easy multi-man black hole. But that just proves my point that you should avoid captains mode.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » October 26, 2014 9:50pm | Report
The reason why you got a low MMR is because you didn't do well in the non ranked games. If you have 45% winrate BEFORE doing the calibration then your hidden MMR is probably pretty low. And if it is, no matter how well you do in the calibration matches you will end up in ELO hell.

From what I know, here's how professional players smurfing do it : make a new account, spend time carrying ridiculous 1 v 5 games until they reach level 13, do the calibration matches, and end up calibrated at ~4K - 5K.

So play for a bit at the skill level you got calibrated at. If for some reason you feel you are way above that skill level make another account and recalibrate. But remember that your MMR reflects how well you did in the matches *before* you calibrated so only do it if you think you've improved a lot since that time. On the other hand if you repeatedly end up carrying hard with your 30/3 Crystal maiden while the rest of your team is feeding like hell, then maybe it's time to recalibrate instead of tediously grinding 500 games just to go from 2K to 3K MMR.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » October 27, 2014 12:39am | Report
http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/forum/general/the-science-behind-your-skill-calibration-9589?page=1#comments

how MMR is calibrated.

also answers some questions you might have.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » October 27, 2014 1:21am | Report
CapnDaft wrote:

It's basically just the players that I play wiht that ruins my game:D

As long as you play while being confident in that, you will never rise your MMR. Of course, there may be bad players, or bad picks etc., but who will give a guarantee you are better?

Not to sound rude, but your winrate is freaking 45 percent, that ultimately means your your team loses more often. And who is the only constant member of your team? That's right, you. So I would reccomend forgetting the quoted statement, or at least, when you ***** about how bad or cocky the player is, don't drag it into the game, say that he's a moron who shopuld die horribly aloud in your room to lessen he frustration, and carry/support on(pun intended). The attitude really matters.

And of course, to climb up the MMR ladder, you should perform well, and you perform much better when you:
*play a hero you're comfortable with, randoming in RMM = automatic moron detect.
*play in a fair mood, don't play Dota after a lose streak, or when you are just back from your beloved granny's funeral or when you have just parted with your girlfriend etc.
*be sure to feel well physically.
*NEVER ***** about anything unless the game is a sure win. Then you can tell them idiots everything you think about them.


For instance - yesterday I played while having a headache. Result: played like complete ****, lasthitted 4(!) creeps while freefarming, then dragged the -morale into the next game with the same result. ez -50 pts.

An today, I've just played a match, where at the pick phase I put an icon for mid, alt-tabbed, and when I came back, I found myself surrounded by 3 carries and a guys who wanted 4th. Could easily pick mid and ***** about cour and a carry team, but I just shut up, picked Jakiro, bought cour and wards, wandered the map like a hobo a boot, put all the wards, sentrys, etc., didn't say a word to that cocky ***** playing Legion Commander, not to metion I don't enjoy supporting much, especially when I'm the only support. Would my attitude be different, it would be an easy lose but we manages to win without much effort(from my 4 carry buddies ofc), and LC wrote "ez" after my "gg wp" in all chat.

So yeah, attitude is huge. Change it, and you'll see your MMR grow.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KrDotoBestDoto » October 27, 2014 2:13am | Report
I get KOTL who contests me as carry for farm. I get a Bara who not only steals my lasthits, but also tries to gank into a dual stun lane while being horribly out of position. I get a Riki who does nothing the whole game saying he's "ganking". I get a CK who feeds 5 kills in 3 minutes on the safelane. I get a Pudge who doesn't gank.

Tell me more about how it's entirely on me to win.
Fact is that most teammates I get suck *** for a hobby. Playing ranked gives you 30% Russian flaming ******s, 30% English speaking flaming ******s, 30% ragequitters and the 10% that's left is actually decent, but you still lose about 5% of that simply because of skill difference.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » October 27, 2014 3:26am | Report

I get KOTL who contests me as carry for farm. I get a Bara who not only steals my lasthits, but also tries to gank into a dual stun lane while being horribly out of position. I get a Riki who does nothing the whole game saying he's "ganking". I get a CK who feeds 5 kills in 3 minutes on the safelane. I get a Pudge who doesn't gank.

Tell me more about how it's entirely on me to win.
Fact is that most teammates I get suck *** for a hobby. Playing ranked gives you 30% Russian flaming ******s, 30% English speaking flaming ******s, 30% ragequitters and the 10% that's left is actually decent, but you still lose about 5% of that simply because of skill difference.

You are just listing singular cases. Fact is(and arguing this is going against common sense), ******s are not only in your team, but in another as well. Why whiners only remember their ez -25, while not remembering ez +25? Winning is not entirely on you, but if you have an impact, and are of a hihher skill level, you will rise eventually. That's proven already, random ****** encounters never beats statistics, which say if you are better, you will rise.

Edit: and I'm sure if I watch your replays I will find a bunch of mistakes you just didn't notice or you just forgave yourself for them. When you miss a combo, it's "ok, it happens". When someone else fails the combo, you roll your eyes up and sigh in the best case.

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