Riki Support New Meta?

It is if they come with Dust of Appearance / before you're lvl6, and you have no viable targets to Blink to / are Silenced / Stunned


In order to Deny every Last Hit, the Support would have to stay in Lane, leeching half of the Carry's Exp. This is why the Carry is in charge of Denying, because he/she/it needs that Exp.

As for Backstab as Burst Damage, that's only if they don't turn and fight you, which any smart player will, because if you're facing a Riki, he's got virtually no damage whatsoever.

Especially for a Support Riki, who has no farm whatsoever.


Pretty much every proper support hast better disables/burst damage early on. And most of them are ranged, so they can properly harrass.

well, me and a friend tried riki support out in a few test games and it worked fine, but due to the generally negative replies in this thread I am assuming:

a) You have a different play style
b) you think its a bad idea
c) your a negative person who hates new ideas

and as such im giving up on this thread despite a 100% winrate out of 5 games

Thanks
FleetAU

Don't get mad bro, they all have great point of why riki can't be a true support.

But maybe if he gets suficient farm and exp to reach a quick lvl 6 he can provide some utility to the team, rather than just your average PUB carry dmg items.
But for that to happen and still let his core carry farm he needs to be either a capable offlaner, middler or jungler... and he's not great at any said lanes.

I call on Secret option D)!!!!!

Not to sound mean or anything but as you said in an other tread of yours you play in a really low MMR, at those levels you can get away with much more stuff like 2 carries in lane, and some bad heroes like drow, sniper, bloodseeker and warlock suddenly become really good.

ya "me and my friend" got a friend at 4.5K who tried it and went fine, thats why I said that. im not mad or anything, just some people really seem to be sooo damn negative about it. btw:

d) I'm just a friendly guy who sais stuff on the internet
e)I ****ing hate you so I dis your ideas
f)I'm the cookie monster, I say what I want

friend of mine at 4.5K games went like this btw
WIN=3K-5D-23A
WIN=1K-3D-17A
WIN=3K-4D-14A
WIN=4K-7D-21A
WIN=4K-2D-26A

apparently ^^^ he can't be a support, I do think he could still play in a 4 role but hey what do I know ;)

Thanks for the responses anyway

FleetAU

sure you can do it in pubs but in a semi organised game he is barely more then just an invisible melee creep.
the way i think about these things is in that sort of games, so i dont consider it viable.
he is not good in lane and not good at ganks, so screw around with it if it works for you, but it isnt in anyway good in semi organised games.

I'm with the general idea that he would go as low as a 3 position. Also, why waste the slot on a support position with someone who is "kind of capable" of supporting, when you could have someone with much better utility. His abilities are geared towards being a carry with backstab as an agility multiplier. Also, to say he has good burst damage with backstab when he's supporting doesn't really work. He's still reliant on getting agility items to make backstab really useful. If Riki is spending time getting support items, he is going to be fairly useless late game since you aren't taking advantage of his right click damage and all he has to really contribute to a team fight is smoke screen.
I am definitely not against new ideas in dota, I encourage people to try new strats when I play, but the simple reasoning for this is, why bother running him in a position that another hero can do much better?

plz delete this someone, I just saw that patch notes and went,hey riki can deny=support without thinking and the put it here, looking back, stupid me

We all make mistakes, this was just one of the funnier ones 8{3