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Slark - Slippery When Wet

April 10, 2013 by lancer611
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lancer611 (3) | March 19, 2013 5:14am
TangoNCash wrote:

@lancer611 @Catman

Strongly disagree about the Drum of Endurance. If you are building a bracer for survivability it is incredibly cost-efficient to build it into a Drum. Even if other players are planning on building one (which is by no means certain), you are a roaming ganker during the midgame � you cannot be sure they are going to be around when you could benefit from the aura.

1200 gold for 5% ias and 5% movespeed, 4 charges, and some stats is not efficient. Thats more than half the cost of Yasha, which gives you (constant) 3x the ias and 2x the move speed, PLUS 16 agility. And you don't even need the movespeed, Slark is one of the fastest heroes in the game.
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TangoNCash (3) | March 19, 2013 2:39am
@lancer611 @Catman

Strongly disagree about the Drum of Endurance. If you are building a bracer for survivability it is incredibly cost-efficient to build it into a Drum. Even if other players are planning on building one (which is by no means certain), you are a roaming ganker during the midgame – you cannot be sure they are going to be around when you could benefit from the aura.
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Catman | March 19, 2013 12:46am
lancer611 wrote:
IMO drums aren't really worth the extra cost. You have plenty of AS and MS from your other items and skills, and most times another player will buy it anyway.


And i agree with you. Some more thinking about it and it feelt kinad wasted. if u want hp u got your treads and u can just make a bracer.
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Mirror (22) | March 15, 2013 3:14pm
Ever since I got the Ripper I have played a little bit more of slark. This is not really a suggestion of feedback just my experience and success with the hero. I use your skill build and get a poor man shield fairly fast. After that I get soul ring. It scales the entire game and lets you practically spam pounce and later push with dark pact. After that I get Skull Basher base damage strength better chasing power farm jungle easer it is all in one. After those items I just get what the situation needs. I also found that a Slark Treant lane is CRAZY. My highest kills ever was with that lane, I went 30-2-18 as slark.
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lancer611 (3) | March 15, 2013 6:41am
@TangoNCash
You can always buy extra regen with a courier if you need it.

Ring of Aq/Bas actually nearly double your mana regen early game. And as Catman mentioned, its a flat boost, not %.

I only list BKB as core because it is understated. Half of the time I don't get it, which I mentioned in the BKB explanation section.

Maelstrom/Mjollnir is the whole point of this guide. As I said in the guide, I believe that it offers Slark more damage output than any other single item.

@Catman
IMO drums aren't really worth the extra cost. You have plenty of AS and MS from your other items and skills, and most times another player will buy it anyway.

Yes sorry, I updated the guide with explanations on builds 2 and 3.

@both
Bracer, PMS, and Wand are all listed in the Situational section.
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Catman | March 14, 2013 2:25pm
TangoNCash wrote:

2) I'm not all that crazy about the ring of aquila. The %-based mana regen gain is not going to do much work for you early game. If you're looking for early survivability I am all for building a Poor Man's Shield and/or a Bracer. You can build the Bracer into a Drum of Endurance.


Ring of aquila dosnt have %-based mana regen it got a 0,6 mana per second.
And as he says i think bracer into a drums is better. But still having a basi.
And then going your mjolnir build.

If u doing a guied i think u should more option to starting items. like
Stout sheld, salv, tango, and then 3 GG branches(like this starting item build more). And u make a fast poor man shield.
And i dont like that build 3 is just more items. Not explaning anything just trowing them in there.
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TangoNCash (3) | March 9, 2013 9:14am
Hi there,

Like this skill build quite a bit.

Also you are right that Maelstrom is a great dps item on any agility carry, especially one who tends to gain a lot of attack speed the way Slark does. When combined with Dark Pact it actually gives you a lot of ability to farm.

All the items are good IMO except maybe three minor gripes:

1) Not enough starting regen. Having just a set of tangoes is not going to be enough if you are playing against a challenging lane-- any lane with magic nukes or good ranged harass. And if you are looking to be agressive (which you definitely should be against certain lineups) you definitely need a salve.

2) I'm not all that crazy about the ring of aquila. The %-based mana regen gain is not going to do much work for you early game. If you're looking for early survivability I am all for building a Poor Man's Shield and/or a Bracer. You can build the Bracer into a Drum of Endurance.

3) I'm not totally sold on a Black King Bar as an always-buy item. I usually only buy this item if 1) I'm forced to be an ititiator, which is never ideal 2) I'm forced to be the major damage-dealer on the team, or 3) I am up against a lineup with a lot of magic damage.

If you are set on the Maelstrom route, I have been most successful buying a cheap early-game item to address your squishiness issues ( Drum of Endurance, a Medallion of Courage, or a naked Point Booster will do the trick), and then building the Maelstrom. This is a fantastic, cheap build for the midgame.
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lancer611 (3) | March 7, 2013 4:23am
I was just comparing the Basher to Skadi, better to get Basher instead. Most games are over by the time I have Mjollnir and BKB, but if its still going on I usually choose between MKB and Basher, depending on the enemy heros.

The whole point of Mjollnir is the attack speed, which means you build up Essence Shift faster. The potential damage from ES greatly outweighs the damage you will get from any single item (except maybe Rapier). A slark with 300 agility and BKB is basically unstoppable.
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xCO2 (72) | March 6, 2013 6:33pm
lancer611 wrote:

I actually still play dota1 with a friend who owns a Mac lol. But I rarely watch replays, I'm not a serious enough player for that. I just posted this because I'm tired of seeing MoM on Slark, and I never see a Slark with M/M.

Yeah, Skadi is very expensive for a slow, and stats you don't really need. Basher is much better once you have Mjollnir, and of course goes very well with Essence Shift.


I hear you, it does annoy me to see MoM on Nightcrawler, especially when they Dark Pact at the same time...oh god, make it stop.

I wouldn't bother after a Mjollnir, I would just go MKB at that point, if you were to pick up a Basher it would have to be after Maelstrom. Plus, I just find Mjollnir also kind of lack luster, you're better off sticking with Maelstrom and buy the Mjollnir as a luxury after a big purchase.
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lancer611 (3) | March 6, 2013 6:31pm
I actually still play dota1 with a friend who owns a Mac lol. But I rarely watch replays, I'm not a serious enough player for that. I just posted this because I'm tired of seeing MoM on Slark, and I never see a Slark with M/M.

Yeah, Skadi is very expensive for a slow, and stats you don't really need. Basher is much better once you have Mjollnir, and of course goes very well with Essence Shift.
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