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Forum » Theory Crafting » MoM Ursa? 16 posts - page 1 of 2
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Yzreel » May 30, 2015 5:23pm | Report
I've just played a couple of Ursa games, and I just went ahead and did my usual Vladmir's Offering straight away. The thing is, I noticed that since last patch (6.83) Ursa only need a Morbid Mask to be able to roshan, but it just didn't sit well with to not upgrade it. I though to upgrade it into Satanic, but it seems that too expensive. I then thought the other alternative, Mask of Madness.

I know that it sounds silly, but think about it. Enrage this patch gives 80% damage reduction, so I think that it can counteract Mask of Madness drawback, and having the extra attack speed and more importantly movement speed means he is much harder to be kited without proper devoted kiter, as well as being capable to burst down enemy even when Overpower is on CD.

I'm not sure myself since I haven't checked in real games (I'm not really fond with Ursa, and I did it only for the challenge), but I think it might actually work, what do you guys think?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » May 30, 2015 5:45pm | Report
I'd rather just buy flat dominator for extra armor, damage, and a creep which can set you up kills (the new golems, centaurs). Enrage doesn't last that long, and you still take damage in the meantime. While it counteracts it, it still makes the skill weaker.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » May 30, 2015 6:21pm | Report
since you will use Overpower during Enrage to get the maximum amount of Fury Swipes damage, you wont benefit from it during the ult, and outside of it id rather have a mix of mobility, lockdown, and a bit of damage.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » May 30, 2015 6:44pm | Report
Meh, I still go for Vlad's even after UAM removal. It just suits him the best IMO, mostly because it gives solid mana regen and doesn't take up a slot for UAM, so "hi-u-r-ded" Desolator Ursa or Skadi Ursa is possible.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » May 30, 2015 7:04pm | Report
Skadi stacks with lifesteal, so unless you want to gp deso ursa, there is no argument to be made for lifesteal being a uam

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Swampmist1142 » May 30, 2015 7:26pm | Report
It isn't anymore, as dimony tried to say. At Least vlads isn't, and I don't believe the others are either if my memory serves me right.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by F.E.A.R.0 » May 30, 2015 7:44pm | Report
Even if Enrage does give 80% dmg reduction, MoM still amplifies dmg by 30%, so you still won't have 80% dmg reduction because of MoM, Enrage's duration is short and after it ends, you'll get screwed.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by L0bstz0r » May 31, 2015 11:27am | Report
Timminatorr wrote:

since you will use Overpower during Enrage to get the maximum amount of Fury Swipes damage, you wont benefit from it during the ult, and outside of it id rather have a mix of mobility, lockdown, and a bit of damage.


^Couldnt agree more.

Furthermore Overpower has such a short CD, that items that only offer IAS (the MS is nice, but hardly worth the 30% dmg amp) are pretty much redundant.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » May 31, 2015 12:14pm | Report
I agree as above, that MoM Ursa is kinda meh. Butterfly, however, is another matter. Given that Ursa scales with attack speed solely now, and has naturally high HP, I can see his 6-slots as:

BoTs
Butterfly
BKB
Blink/Diffusal
Satanic
Abyssal Blade

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KrDotoBestDoto » June 2, 2015 11:22am | Report
Refresher Ursa = literally unkillable

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