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Aghs on Enigma, greedy or worth it?

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Forum » Theory Crafting » Aghs on Enigma, greedy or worth it? 8 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by sulaxrox » December 31, 2013 11:29pm | Report
I'm perplexed as to whether or not aim to get the aghs upgrade while jungling enigma. Sticking to the Mek-blink-bkb has worked out beautifully in all the games I've played him in, than insert situational luxury item. My conundrum stems from the aghs upgrade automatically applying the highest midnight pulse damage to you're black hole automatically, great but generally I bkb-blink-pulse-hole, but with aghs, would it count as 2 pulses if you follow the same rotation?
Noob question possibly, but if it does stack as I believe it may, that would absolutely destroy a team with proper setup. I'm just thinking it as an obvious choice the later the game goes but since he generally farms better than other supports considering his speedy jungling, should I still focus on the necessary support items (force, scythe) or is it worth trying?
Step 1: Pick Bristleback
Step 2: type in all chat:"GL hf"
Step 3: solo offlane
Step 4: first blood triple kill solo vs trilane
Step 5: continue head butting keyboard
Step 6: don't care, Bristleback doesn't give a ****
Step 7: screenshot repeated: BB OP comments in all chat
Step 8: alternate games with Slark pick

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Peppo_oPaccio » January 1, 2014 1:26am | Report
I think getting Mekansm, Blink and BKB is always core on Enigma, but in a late game scenario you could take it instead of the usual Linken's/Vyse if your carry is really underfarmed or the enemies are too tanky. After all, you wouldn't need extra damage with a decent Black Hole since your teammates would follow up and kill everyone inside it.

I'm pretty sure it dos stack though, the real problem is putting a good Midnight Pulse before the enemies catch you out of position.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by sulaxrox » January 1, 2014 2:33am | Report
Very true, he needs decent setup, most teams won't just bunch up unfortunately lol, I just tried it out, was a bad game, 2 people weren't English, but midnight pulse+aghs black hole it had to stack because we were way behind overall and it melted 4 heroes, 1 of which was a fat pudge w like 20 stacks of flesh heap...very very strong if you can get it off.
Thanks for the input, I can see it as a solid option, scythe or refresher usually are what I go for, unless there's something like a bane who would just poop on my bkb
Step 1: Pick Bristleback
Step 2: type in all chat:"GL hf"
Step 3: solo offlane
Step 4: first blood triple kill solo vs trilane
Step 5: continue head butting keyboard
Step 6: don't care, Bristleback doesn't give a ****
Step 7: screenshot repeated: BB OP comments in all chat
Step 8: alternate games with Slark pick

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheAmazingComicBookGuy » January 1, 2014 2:55am | Report
It's worth it, but only AFTER your mek bkb blink and maybe vyse

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sando » January 1, 2014 3:40am | Report
No love for the Refresher Orb? Potential for double Black Hole or just reducing the CD is invaluable late game. Tbh that's why I don't really consider an Aghanim's Scepter on him - it would have to come after this, which would be extremely late.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » January 1, 2014 4:37am | Report
Sando wrote:

No love for the Refresher Orb? Potential for double Black Hole or just reducing the CD is invaluable late game. Tbh that's why I don't really consider an Aghanim's Scepter on him - it would have to come after this, which would be extremely late.

^ This. If Aghanim's Scepter reduced the Cooldown by even 20 seconds (similar to Juggernaut), it would be worth it though.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by sulaxrox » January 1, 2014 4:23pm | Report
Sando wrote:

No love for the Refresher Orb? Potential for double Black Hole or just reducing the CD is invaluable late game. Tbh that's why I don't really consider an Aghanim's Scepter on him - it would have to come after this, which would be extremely late.

I love me some refresher on enigma. It's brutal, and also triggers massive amounts of derp rage on the other team, in a tight game I feel refresher will make the biggest difference luxury item wise. Consider: black hole 3 heroes, they die, 2 others fighting your carry, 3 BB, they re-engage, boom refreshed-black hole gg.
Step 1: Pick Bristleback
Step 2: type in all chat:"GL hf"
Step 3: solo offlane
Step 4: first blood triple kill solo vs trilane
Step 5: continue head butting keyboard
Step 6: don't care, Bristleback doesn't give a ****
Step 7: screenshot repeated: BB OP comments in all chat
Step 8: alternate games with Slark pick

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by sansheva » January 11, 2014 10:44am | Report
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