Rod of atos on clinkz?

(Am on a phone so plz excuse any typos)Is rod of atos really viable on clinkz as a pre or post orchid because one of clinkz problem is that once u get the jump on ppl they can pretty much walk away since he has no stun or slow and getting atos helps his hp,mana pool,and allows u to keep ppl in place while u mow the down with strafe+flaming arrows

Diffusal Blade is better on agility heroes if you want a slow. Also Eye of Skadi. Atos isn't horrible but there are better options.

Also, stop going orchid every game on the guy. Go soul ring/medallion/desolator with early boots of travel, it's arguably the best build these days. There's no point slowing people if you 2-shot them :)

What's the average timings of those and when you usually get BoTs - before, or after Deso? Also, is it worth to calling your support off if you expect to be laning against a solo offlane? I feel like adding this hero to my pool in a new patch, but I legitimately suck with him.

Edit: also what about Midas on him? This hero farm's speed is so slow-*** it hurts playing him for me at times.

you lose out on a lot of damage for that amount of gold and in the timeframe you get it

I'd say ~11-12 min orchid or ~13-14 min SR/medallion/deso. Depends on lane of course. I always go plain boots on him so add a bit if you buy treads.



Always after. You need to stack all the early damage you can.

Travels are really the best boots on him IMO, because they allow him to pick off anything and to rat towers. Not to mention infinite regen. But damage comes first.




Clinkz can win the lane against pretty much any solo. So generally you don't need your supports to lane, only to set up kills. That's a really nice thing about the hero, even if you have useless supports you'll still freefarm the safe lane. Also Undying, Lich, Doom and stuff are essentially food in lane.

The only downside is, there's a few offlaners who can jump you and kill you. Like 17% or Ebola spirit. If you spam Death Pact on cooldown with a Soul Ring you should be fine, but you need 6 for that and even then if you get triple bashed you're dead XD. So you still need a support e.g when soccer spirit hits 6 or when that offlane Night Stalker gets his first night.




I'm still a bit meh about it. Because it makes him miss his timings, a bit like midas Templar Assassin. Having a lot of farm when the enemy team starts 5-manning with mek is kind of useless, you want to get solo kills before that.

I consider the early Boots of Travel to be the greed build on him, and I think it's always better than midas. But then I can change my mind.

And he doesn't farm that slowly, he oneshots big jungle creeps with his ult and deso speeds up farm by a lot as well.

I see, thanks, Hamster.

Exactly!
Why get atos when you have death pact and you can slow using a diffusal/skadi?.
For about same price as that of atos, you get diffusal that gives some int , good amount of agility, a mana burn passive that kind of synergises with your attack speed, and a zero cooldown purge that can be used for 7 times. Make the purges count and you wont need the atos. Imo, euls better than atos.


Atos has no late game synergy with the hero, so it is a dump after 25 minute mark item for clinkz. Imagine getting clarities on OD in the laning phase(while you don't have essence aura). Clinkz makes his own HP.

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If you feel that you want to slow an enemy, why not try speeding yourself up? Get phase boots along with tranquils and Mask of Madness! Glass cannon synergistic focus fire technique is AWWWWNNNN baby!

Alright thx for the feedback and I don't always go orchid but since the jumble of ebola spirits and dazzles and other hereos orchid is good against I usually end up getting it so I can get solo pickoff easier since they have escape.

yeah there's nothing wrong with that, just Clinkz excels at other things too and his pickoff potential is already very high since you have insane single target dps. clinkz is pretty much a machinegun assassin, quickly kill then dip so RoA only hinders that.

Atos is a bit weird since it doesnt stop strong escape spells, so i the situations where you want to stop that orchid is obviously better, but dont bother with the items too late into the game. 18 minutes at the latest if its still good.
Aside from that deso is often good because its a standard snowball item on him, but leaves you squishy ofcourse.

One game a while ago i did a different build with dominator.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1817195591

This game it was perfect because they had a lot of burst and AOE damage, and the way the fights happened i could kill them if i managed to survive though their initial spells. Dominator is a bit weird because it doesnt give creeps a flat HP bonus anymore, but with new dominator you dont have to search for a big creep anymore to get the max hp because the hp is always the same.

For people who dont know how it works you dominate a creep which you then ult, so you get more HP and damage.
I havent had muc time to test the build because the next 3 games i played him were all 25 min stomps where i obviously got deso.