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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ThreadOfFate » March 1, 2015 10:26am | Report
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Why dont they make Berserker's Call not piercing BKB? kappa

As a matter of fact, why do people bother buying bkb anymore? Except for a select few spells, pretty much every ability goes through bkb at this point.

But yes, can we please make the AoE taunt not go through bkb?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » March 1, 2015 10:28am | Report
Unscathed wrote:

Why dont they make Berserker's Call not piercing BKB? kappa

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » March 1, 2015 10:41am | Report
Nah, Berserker's Call piercing BKB is normal, call is all of Axe's late game and it has to be good.

Only problem is the cooldown. 10 second cooldown is broken. Make this 14-15 seconds and the hero is balanced. Maybe nerf his speed bonus a bit too.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » March 1, 2015 10:52am | Report
But again, if you are comparing this to RP, then wont 16 seconds cd be op still?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » March 1, 2015 1:27pm | Report
Unscathed wrote:

But again, if you are comparing this to RP, then wont 16 seconds cd be op still?


Magnus scales differently into late game than Axe. And Lanes differently.

Even if Call has the lower cooldown, the heros do and fufil different roles, which balances things out for the two heroes, since Magnus adds more in the late game with Empower and arguably Skewer

But I do agree the cooldown should be more substantial than 16s.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » March 1, 2015 5:55pm | Report
ThreadOfFate wrote:


As a matter of fact, why do people bother buying bkb anymore? Except for a select few spells, pretty much every ability goes through bkb at this point.

But yes, can we please make the AoE taunt not go through bkb?

Nah not really, its still needed VERY often, its just that often you would rather not buy it because you could buy damage instead.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » March 1, 2015 6:06pm | Report
ThreadOfFate wrote:

As a matter of fact, why do people bother buying bkb anymore?


Because at some point you'll always need one.
If you managed to survive 50 minutes without a BKB it's fine. But then you can always buy one as your 6th slot item, it's far better than another damage item.
In the late game when sheeps start coming out you can't survive without one anyways.
The question is not whether you need a BKB or not but when you buy it.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » March 2, 2015 10:02am | Report
Some time ago I was saying that the speed bonus are overlooked and noweople say it OP?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Finalized » March 2, 2015 3:10pm | Report
something that people don't ever consider is that Axe gets a bonus 40 armor. 40 armor!!! In my opinion a good counter to him is Elder Titan with the 100% armor reduction a good dps carry, such as Templar Assassin would just rip through him.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » March 2, 2015 3:20pm | Report
^ The 40 armor is bonus armor, not base armor. Natural Order only removes base armor so it doesn't work.
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