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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Zerosaviour » January 14, 2015 4:05am | Report
The more games I play of Dota 2; the more and more I stop going for Aghs on heroes that have an upgrade for them. Every time there is a better option that it. Yet other people go for it; even rush to get it sometimes; even though it ends up costing us the game due to them lacking a key item.

Case in point. Had a game where I was playing doom and our Shadow Demon pretty much rushed for his aghs; yet when he did get it; still was useless in the fights. All the while we were needing a lot of lockdown. Our techies was our other support and picked up his aghs after his Euls. He only got it cause he was helping us get kills and getting many kills himself. He even picked up a sheepstick before we lost in an attempt to get more control out.

Another game, the other team had Necro and Axe both going tanky. Our Juggernaught even after seeing that both of them were going tanky was still planning on going Aghs Omni build over a much stronger blink-MoM-Deso build.

Every time I see people going Aghs without taking into consideration of what their facing.

There are only a few heroes that actually have Aghs upgrades worth going for every game.

Such as Lich, Meepo, and Visage.

So when do you guys decide when it's good to go aghs and when isn't it.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » January 14, 2015 4:06am | Report
Tiny =Aghs

Puck or outworld devourer = Aghs wuuuuuuut?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » January 14, 2015 4:28am | Report

Tiny =Aghs

Puck or outworld devourer = Aghs wuuuuuuut?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » January 14, 2015 4:35am | Report

Puck or outworld devourer = Aghs wuuuuuuut?


We're not in 6.81 anymore, their two Aghs used to suck but they got huge buffs since then.

Aghs Puck is absolutely core as the game goes late, it's one of the very rare ways to have a decent late game with Puck actually. Every competitive team builds Aghs on Puck. It has one of the best synergies with any kind of AOE damage like Gyro/Dusa/Ember because nobody can escape the coil. 4.5 second BKB piercing stun, 'nuff said.

Aghs OD, well, it kind of mana drains an entire team, it's also pretty good. Tidehunter without mana? Medusa without mana? You get the idea. Definitely very situational but there's no way it's a bad item.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » January 14, 2015 4:44am | Report
yeah puck=aghs definitely

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » January 14, 2015 4:49am | Report
yeaaaaa, people buy it waaaay too often, but its not just aghs, a lot of players just go into the game with a certain itembuild in mind and dont change it accordingly at all.

Meepo, Doom, Necrophos, Tiny and Techies pretty much need it to function optimally. not all of them need to rush it because it either makes them why you pick them and/or because they are about DAT ult.

heroes like Pugna, Enchantress Timbersaw, Venomancer, Warlock Razor who all really want it.

then there are heroes like Ancient Apparition, Clockwerk, Chen Dark Seer, Disruptor, Earth Spirit, Leshrac, Lion, Lich, Night Stalker, Ogre Magi, Rubick, Treant Protector, Timbersaw,and Witch Doctor, who all get insane ults but may want other items first.

then situational like Axe, Invoker, Juggernaut, Zeus, Sven.

then a lot of decent once that increase damage that you may sometimes want.

aaaaaaand then there are ****ty ones, like Luna, Tinker, Gyrocopter.

and then there is THE DEEPEST TRENCH OF AGHANIM UPGRADES.














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edit: okay is MAAAAAYBE sometimes sort of decent against Medusa, but even then what item will you replace with aghanims? force staff maybe?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sando » January 14, 2015 4:50am | Report
Veil of Discord I'd say is more important than Aghs on Lich, I might still pick it up afterwards if your team has a lot of lockdown, otherwise you might be better with something else.

Would say get it get it get it on:

AA, Omniknight, Enchantress, Clockwerk, Disruptor, Tiny, Treant Protector.

Strongly worth considering on:

Abaddon, Chen, Huskar, Dark Seer (if late), Lion, Lina, Necrophos, KOTL, Pugna, Razor, Silencer, Shadow Shaman, Juggernaut (CD alone), Zeus, Enigma, Beastmaster, QoP, Night Stalker.

I probably missed a few, meh.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Zerosaviour » January 14, 2015 4:57am | Report
Sando wrote:

Veil of Discord I'd say is more important than Aghs on Lich, I might still pick it up afterwards if your team has a lot of lockdown, otherwise you might be better with something else.

Would say get it get it get it on:

AA, Omniknight, Enchantress, Clockwerk, Disruptor, Tiny, Treant Protector.

Strongly worth considering on:

Abaddon, Chen, Huskar, Dark Seer (if late), Lion, Lina, Necrophos, KOTL, Pugna, Razor, Silencer, Shadow Shaman, Juggernaut (CD alone), Zeus, Enigma.

I probably missed a few, meh.


I go aghs before Veil mostly due to the fact that having unlimited bounces is a lot better than a damage boost. But both are a must for Lich.

Also either go Aghs or Refresher on Enima. Mostly depending on game.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » January 14, 2015 5:00am | Report
Really, from experience, Lich gets infinitely more out of a Blink Dagger than he gets from Aghs/Veil/whatever. Aghs is just nice because it gives HP, which Lich really needs since he gets often focused first in teamfights.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » January 14, 2015 5:03am | Report
but...but infinite jumps is kinda good...AGAINST NOOBS >:{D!

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