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Forum » Theory Crafting » Who won? 5 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » February 11, 2015 6:06pm | Report


So guys! who won these drafts?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » February 11, 2015 6:36pm | Report
First draft : I don't see the synergy going on with the dire side, they have silences, but only one stun to follow up. Tidehunter don't give a **** about silence becuz of purge. Invoker royally ****s up visage and vengeful spirit but i think that the jakiro pick could have been replaced by something like a lion to mess with drow ranger.

Draft verdict: radiant wins.

Second Draft: Damn. Silencer completely anals Tidehunter in lane due to his insane laning capacity with glaives of wisdom hurting so hard its not even funny anymore.Also, spam of first skill can catch him with all his skills on cool-down, making him an easy prey for Last Word.But after level 6, it doesnt matter anymore does it?

the trilane is won by dire hands down, radiant just doesn't have the capacity to sustain sven's mana and has a low killing capacity in general and needs to spam a lot to have presence in lane.Dire on the other hand just needs to show it's face in lane to make the enemies retreat.Purchase of mass magic wands pretty much ensures a smooth early game for dire.

In the mid lane, the line-up is not about countering, its about skill. If puck is good, all damaging ring thingies will be wasted, if razor is good, he will harass puck till he is forced to use Phase Shift, giving him a brief window of opportunity.

In teamfights, Radiant has the upper hand due to mass silences and 2 great AoE disables. Dire's strategy is based on thoroughly raping radiant in the early game, because past 35 minutes, they don't bring much to the plate.

Draft verdict: if game ends in 30 minutes, Dire wins.
If game doesn't end in 30 minutes, high probability of dire losing.sorry smugs :c

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » February 11, 2015 7:15pm | Report
KoDyAbAbA wrote:

First draft : I don't see the synergy going on with the dire side, they have silences, but only one stun to follow up. Tidehunter don't give a **** about silence becuz of purge. Invoker royally ****s up visage and vengeful spirit but i think that the jakiro pick could have been replaced by something like a lion to mess with drow ranger.



How do you not see it? have u never seen the Visage-Drow-Venge draft before?

Someone enlighten this Pleb!! also 1 stun? bro.... wot...

draft 2: more like 40 mins but yea ur right on that one... but it will end in 15!!!!! muwahaha

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Seagull » February 11, 2015 9:39pm | Report
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How do you not see it? have u never seen the Visage-Drow-Venge draft before?

Someone enlighten this Pleb!! also 1 stun? bro.... wot...

draft 2: more like 40 mins but yea ur right on that one... but it will end in 15!!!!! muwahaha

The synergy is obvious... ALL BLUE STRAT 8{3

Ok, more seriously now. First draft, I'd say dire win. I don't know if Tide is going to get anything out of the offlane, there's so much damage and killing potential after drow hits lvl 2.

Midlane, Razor probably wins. There's no way to break the link and invoker can't even harass with cold snap.

The Puck vs Troll is going to be a complete wash, no one will die unless either overextends.

About strategy, I think radiant will quickly lose all its map control with dire's pushing lineup and a fast mek from Razor.

Draft two: The tri vs tri is going to go heavily in dire's favour. Sven has no mana and Zeus will be quite underwhelming. Dire on the other hand has lots of lockdown and damage. I get the feeling radiant might have tried to dodge. The other two lanes will probably go quite evenly.

I'd say if Dire can snowball of the won tri vs tri they will win. But it's risky as any lost teamfight is gong to turn the game around.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » February 12, 2015 6:57am | Report
Smuggels wrote:

How do you not see it? have u never seen the Visage-Drow-Venge draft before?

Someone enlighten this Pleb!! also 1 stun? bro.... wot...

All you need is Crimson Guard to counter Drow Ranger + Visage. If Tidehunter can't Farm it, then getting it on Troll Warlord is fine. Since you only have 1 Stun and barely any Magic/Pure Damage, Troll can easily skip BKB this game. Once Troll gets Crimson Guard, you'll cry like a little girl. 8{3

Drow Ranger isn't that good after 25:00, she's basically a walking Aura, Razor suffers in the Late Game as well. To put it simply, if you don't win before 25:00, you'll lose hard. So let's ask how can you win before 25:00?

Teamfights? nope...

Ganking? You certainly have 2 good Supports for that, and with Rotations from Puck you can play very aggressively early on. Against Telekenesis and Ice Path though, you may not find it that easy to get Kills though. Don't forget dat Sunstrike. 8{3

Pushing? Can you really Push hard when a Ravage and maybe even Dream Coil is waiting for you? You have no real control in Teamfights, so it's easy to punish you if you try to force Pushes.

Farming? With no good Stack clearers on your Team and no good Split-Pushers, I'll easily outFarm you quite quickly. Invoker might struggle at first, but I can always send Rubick and Jakiro to Gank if Visage and Vengeful Spirit stay Top to Push.
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I don't know if Tide is going to get anything out of the offlane, there's so much damage and killing potential after drow hits lvl 2.

That's fine, he doesn't need to get much out of the Offlane, just a few levels, he can catch up in the Jungle. If needed Jakiro can go top to Pull the Creep Wave past the Tower and slow down their Pushes. Tier 1 Top will fall quite quickly, but once Ravage is up, Pushing any further gets scary. 8{3

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