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Barracks suicide is...
... a dirty and disgusting strategy that destroys the fun
.. is an okay strategy as it makes Dota more diverse blahblahblah
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » October 22, 2014 6:21am | Report
Ya know, earlier in my life(like just about an hour ago), during all these "**** rat doto" or "**** deathball doto" posts and arguments I just smiled and thought "oh stupid kids they don't understand Dota is a complex game and while it can be won only via ancient destroying the ways of achieving that are many and blah-blah-blah".

Ya know? **** IT. THIS ****ING GAME. This just shouldn't exist. This has no right to exist there on Earth, but it, like many other things that suck, does. I would say enemy team should get ill with some awful and painful disease but I suppose they already are ill since no healthy man would ever perform THAT.

I came. Pass me a fire extinguisher, pls.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » October 22, 2014 6:26am | Report
I dont think I get your picture. Do you mind clarifying?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » October 22, 2014 6:53am | Report
Unscathed wrote:

I dont think I get your picture. Do you mind clarifying?

Rat doto, or I would rather say barracks suicide win. My only decent teammate was BS, so it was 2 vs 8, and while Abba, Jugg and Axe drawed the attention to them, Luna and Druid just killed towers and there was nothing I could do about that as if I go def, my ****** teammates will lose it even 4 vs 3(look at Axe's HD). If I throwed my ship and go def, I wouldn't be able to def because I can't manfight Eclipse+Misha with hit root. If I help my team with the teamfight, we will have - tower or even two(Misha cut towers like butter). After they achieved to take all barracks down they closed us in our base coz only me+meepo could def megacreeps and 3 other ******s can't do anything in the meanwhile. They came, fed a rampage to me, killed all of my teammates, so they respawned when my teammates did. Having a real possibility to kill a whole enemy team in one hit and ending updefending megacreeps just sucks.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Romark14 » October 22, 2014 7:04am | Report
Rat doto is best doto.
Dimonychan wrote:

Split-puhing <- when you do it.
Rat doto <- when enemy does it.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » October 22, 2014 7:06am | Report
Is Rat Doto different than regular splitpushing?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » October 22, 2014 7:11am | Report
Unscathed wrote:

Is Rat Doto different than regular splitpushing?

Split-puhing <- when you do it.
Rat doto <- when enemy does it.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Romark14 » October 22, 2014 7:12am | Report
Dimonychan wrote:

Split-puhing <- when you do it.
Rat doto <- when enemy does it.


Yup, nailed it.

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Dimonychan wrote:

Split-puhing <- when you do it.
Rat doto <- when enemy does it.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » October 22, 2014 7:31am | Report
i actually have thought about this and ive come up with a tier system for strategies and sub categories of those said strategies.

for example in this case you encountered the

PUSH strategy / sub tier 3 RAT DOTO

rat doto i feel, is when you completely avoid taking any form of combat and focus solely on avoiding the enemy and taking towers. this is characterised by the fact that usually a team has superior fighting capabilities even when at a disadvantage i.e. potential 3v5 wins or higher core progression due to early feeding or farm. point case your Kunkka. RAT DOTO is all about staying away from the enemy and gaining map control and core progression through continual rotations.

this is different to:

PUSH strategy / Sub tier 2 SPLIT PUSH

i feel split pushing is when you strategically force/pressure towers in multiple lanes so you can take a fight at an advantage while the enemy forces are split. this is characterised by highly mobile cores and an even item core progression. example are fighting as 3 vs 2 while the other two are pressuring a tower forcing rotations.

this is again different to:

PUSH strategy / Sub tier 1 DEATH BALL

this strategy is where a team is comprised of heroes that can fight early and take towers early through a combination of powerful disables and/or tower harmful abilities. Deathball strats focus on rotations as 5 early and making the most of the push as 5. they usually want to take a fight and win it then turn the win into a tower or two. by doing so they gain a massive gold and xp advantage very early in the game and force the map control to favour them heavily.

anyway thats my thoughts on the subject.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » October 22, 2014 7:44am | Report
Rat is love, rat is life
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sgt. Jimmy Rustles » October 22, 2014 8:41pm | Report
A valid strategy can be a winning one, even if you don't like it. I can understand the frustration, but hey, they're using a tactic that you can't defend against, so you gotta suck it up and deal with it.

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