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Lifestealer/ Beastmaster Combo

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Forum » Theory Crafting » Lifestealer/ Beastmaster Combo 9 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kerdonkulus » April 3, 2014 2:19pm | Report
So i recently learned from a post here that Lifestealer can infest Beastmasters Hawk. So because of this, i know its unorthodox, but what if we sent a Lifestealer safelane to hard carry, and sent Beastmaster to support, then you could use the hawk combo to surprise gank whenever needed. Also i suppose this works with beastmaster going offlane but i was interested in the idea of keeping them close.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » April 3, 2014 2:43pm | Report
Beastmaster support isnt the greatest but you can just run him offlane or mid.
Throw in a tinker and lifestealer can just infest the blink dagger tinker, while tinker uses boots of travel on the hawk. It is a cool strategy and pretty effective.

Team liquid did this a while back, ill find the game and post a link in a few minutes.


http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/tournaments/3243-dota-2-champions-league-2/881-groupstage/3245-group-b/matches/34417-team-liquid-vs-virtus-pro-dota2?vod=20319

Here is one, i dont think it is the one that ive seen but it is the same tactic.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Zerosaviour » April 3, 2014 9:48pm | Report
If I'm not mistaken, you could also infest Visage birds. So if you want to do some surprise Naix bombs with a support; you can try Visage.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » April 4, 2014 1:32am | Report
I dont think you can infest familiars, i think they are mechanical.

Atleast i have never seen someone do it, not even in professional matches and visage and lifestealer have been really popular for a long time there.

Im not 100% sure, but for now in gonna say you cant.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by jawbreaker261 » April 4, 2014 6:21am | Report
There's no reason to have them in the same lane, it will be midgame before you can really get anything out of the combo, since Lifestealer needs a couple of items to be able to get solo kills reliably.

I'll test the Visage familiar interaction later today if no one else beats me to it. Dota2Wiki doesn't list familiars as mechanical but I know that site's not always right and familiars have a ton of weird spell interactions.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » April 4, 2014 6:35am | Report
just tested it and you CAN infest familiars.

its just so strange that ive never seen anyone do it before becouse it could be really effective.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » April 4, 2014 8:03am | Report
Timminatorr wrote:

its just so strange that ive never seen anyone do it before becouse it could be really effective.

My prediction is that many pr0 players know about this strategy but just haven't used it in a pr0fessional game before, so at TI4, Na'vi will use it so that XBOCT can dive on any target of his choice, then simply Infest the Birds to get away.

It'll be a high-risk, high-return strategy that wins them a difficult game, but Icefrog will end up "patching" it out, because everyone will suddenly start crying that it shouldn't be allowed in the game.

This prediction is based solely on instinct btw 8{3

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Peppo_oPaccio » April 4, 2014 9:02am | Report
Team Liquid used to do that, I've seen them running a team with Lifestealer, Tinker, Beastmaster, Visage and Rubick so they could abuse Tinker's BoT. Both the hawk and the familiars are a valid target for TPs, and Lifestealer can obviously infest Tinker.

Also, you can put Beastmaster mid or off-lane and get some other supports.


EDIT: Timminator said the same thing before me.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kerdonkulus » April 4, 2014 9:22am | Report
Ok well its good to know im gunna give it a few game runs and see how it works out.
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