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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Muush » July 12, 2016 4:09pm | Report
Quite a long list, if you ask me. Analysis better left to veterans though.

* Timbersaw strength gain reduced from 2.1 to 1.8
* Death Prophet base strength reduced by 1
* Spirit Siphon base health drain reduced from 16 to 14
* Metamorphosis manacost increased from 50 to 100
* Metamorphosis no longer lingers after reincarnation/death
* Time Dilation manacost increased from 50 to 75
* Astral Spirit vision reduced from 450 to 400
* Beastmaster Boar XP bounty increased from 59 to 60/70/80/90
* Riki's Blink Strike damage reduced from 60/80/100/120 to 55/70/85/100
* Lane Creeps now give 20% of XP when denied by neutrals rather than 0% (normal player denies give 50% XP)
* Astral Imprisonment damage increased from 75/150/225/300 to 100/175/250/325
* Arcane Orb intelligence duration increased from 60 to 80
* Bloodlust manacost reduced from 75 to 50
* Meepo agility growth increased from 1.9 to 2.2
* Stone Form cooldown reduced from 26 to 20
* Arcane Curse damage increased from 14/21/28/35 to 14/22/30/38
* Brewmaster Boulder damage increased from 50 to 50/100/150
* Brewmaster Dispel Magic damage to illusions and summoned units increased from 500 to 850
* Press the Attack's attack speed bonus increased from 60/80/100/120 to 65/90/115/140
* Sniper turn rate improved from 0.6 to 0.7
* Sniper night vision increased from 1000 to 1100
* Warlock Golems HP increased from 900/1350/1800 to 1000/1500/2000
* Thirst bonus rescaled from 10/20/30/40% to 16/24/32/40%
* Lightning Bolt ministun increased from 0.1 to 0.2
* Stampede slow duration increased from 1.5 to 1.8
* Shadow Fiend movement speed increased from 310 to 315
* Living Armor cooldown reduced from 32/26/20/14 to 30/24/18/12
* Dismember strength based damage increased from 30/40/50 to 30/45/60%
* Sand Storm cooldown reduced from 40/30/20/10 to 34/26/18/10
* Epicenter manacost reduced from 175/250/325 to 150/225/300
* Empower cleave AoE increased from 225 to 240

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » July 12, 2016 4:41pm | Report
"* Lane Creeps now give 20% of XP when denied by neutrals rather than 0% (normal player denies give 50% XP)"

is the biggest change for sure. Pulling side camps and contesting them as offlaners is more rewarding now.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » July 12, 2016 5:01pm | Report
Ummm...this all sounds...completely insignificant.

Legion Commander gets 20 free attack speed, that's pretty big.

Terrorblade got his buyback/aegis nerfed, that's something, but he's still just as good really.

20% XP for lane creeps, OK small offlane buffs so they can leech XP from pulls better.

Besides that, I really fail to see a change that changes anything. Lots of eye candy and nothing to see?

Riki got the Slark treatment btw. Because reducing the damage on your W by 20 is clearly a significant and gamechanging nerf XD
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » July 12, 2016 6:13pm | Report
i see a rather big buff to offlaners yet again. 20% xp bounty from DENIED creeps, all you have to do is contest pulls. Is icefrog trying to bring the era of crazy strong offlaners?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » July 12, 2016 6:19pm | Report
masaaki14 wrote:

i see a rather big buff to offlaners yet again. 20% xp bounty from DENIED creeps, all you have to do is contest pulls. Is icefrog trying to bring the era of crazy strong offlaners?


Actually you don't even have to contest pulls as much anymore - You can just sit in range and soak EXP from the camp and the wave. Which is pretty big.

I don't think however it's as big in comparison to say Iron Talon and hence traditional offlaning offlaners will remain worse than Iron Talon offlaners but a buff is a buff. Maybe pushes Centaur up or Offlane Pudge on Dire.

Otherwise it's all inconsequential save for the TB nerf. Which is good since this is the TI patch and it's fairly open right now. I don't want to see it become less open.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » July 12, 2016 6:22pm | Report
Yes, it changes hardly anything to offlaners that contest pulls, it only buffs offlaners that leech XP.

And even then 20% is really not much. I think it's just to counter zoning in some way, so that offlaners can't completely lose their lane and stay lv 1 forever.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Cuttleboss » July 12, 2016 10:04pm | Report
Oh boy, no more Terrorblade rushing my highground with aegis. Sand King and Outworld Devourer buffs, me likey, maybe we will see TB's actual counters played against him in these high level games.

On the downside, Pudge just keeps getting buffed, and my friend is gonna keep trying to convince me that Pudge is not overpowered in the slightest.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » July 13, 2016 12:05am | Report
Nice Brew powercreep haHAA(though it doesn't actually change anything)
Pretty ****ty patch to be honest, again a lot of buffs to heroes that do not deserve them and minimal or no nerfs to heroes that need to be nerfed.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » July 13, 2016 12:45am | Report
Muush wrote:

* Timbersaw strength gain reduced from 2.1 to 1.8

Insignificant.

* Death Prophet base strength reduced by 1
* Spirit Siphon base health drain reduced from 16 to 14

Also insignificant. Base strength is meh.

* Metamorphosis manacost increased from 50 to 100
* Metamorphosis no longer lingers after reincarnation/death

Trust my waifu to cop the hardest nerf of the lot. This means that you have a noticeable weakness now. Mana cost to Meta is fairly insignificant but it means your combo costs 50 more mana now so it might catch some people.

* Time Dilation manacost increased from 50 to 75

Meh, Void has plenty of mana.

* Astral Spirit vision reduced from 450 to 400

Elder Titan nerfs? Really?

* Beastmaster Boar XP bounty increased from 59 to 60/70/80/90
* Riki's Blink Strike damage reduced from 60/80/100/120 to 55/70/85/100

Meh.

* Lane Creeps now give 20% of XP when denied by neutrals rather than 0% (normal player denies give 50% XP)

As others have said, a buff to static offlaners. Not sure who really gets affected by this, offlane is for plebs.

* Astral Imprisonment damage increased from 75/150/225/300 to 100/175/250/325
* Arcane Orb intelligence duration increased from 60 to 80

80 seconds is a long time to be stupider. The buff to AI means that it 1-shots ranged creeps now, so that's going to be very noticeable. Skill still sucks *** though.

* Bloodlust manacost reduced from 75 to 50

How often does an Ogre spam his buff anyway?

* Meepo agility growth increased from 1.9 to 2.2

Meh.

* Stone Form cooldown reduced from 26 to 20

This is actually fairly large. Means that Visage can execute a lot more stuns.

* Arcane Curse damage increased from 14/21/28/35 to 14/22/30/38

The skill is still dog**** after the laning stage.

* Brewmaster Boulder damage increased from 50 to 50/100/150
* Brewmaster Dispel Magic damage to illusions and summoned units increased from 500 to 850

Uh... cool, I guess? Brew may see play to counter zoo strats, which is fine because I lik watching the hero.

* Press the Attack's attack speed bonus increased from 60/80/100/120 to 65/90/115/140

Interesting buff but I doubt it'll do much. A BAT reduction would've been much better.

* Sniper turn rate improved from 0.6 to 0.7
* Sniper night vision increased from 1000 to 1100

LMFAO wHo cAREAS HAHA Xd

* Warlock Golems HP increased from 900/1350/1800 to 1000/1500/2000

Well that's going to be obnoxious.

* Thirst bonus rescaled from 10/20/30/40% to 16/24/32/40%
* Lightning Bolt ministun increased from 0.1 to 0.2
* Stampede slow duration increased from 1.5 to 1.8
* Shadow Fiend movement speed increased from 310 to 315
* Living Armor cooldown reduced from 32/26/20/14 to 30/24/18/12

All of these are meaningless, except maybe the +5 speed to SF. Doubt it though.

* Dismember strength based damage increased from 30/40/50 to 30/45/60%

Ugh, as if we needed to see more Pudge.

* Sand Storm cooldown reduced from 40/30/20/10 to 34/26/18/10
* Epicenter manacost reduced from 175/250/325 to 150/225/300

Given Dududududu's duration this seems more like a quality of life buff. Mana cost on the ult is more impactful by far.

* Empower cleave AoE increased from 225 to 240

Woo, now you can actually hit people other than your main target with cleave.



Final verdict?

LMFAO wHo cAREAS HAHA Xd

Seriously it's pretty minor
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » July 13, 2016 3:34am | Report
My eyes... Tera you jerk

I had to use "quote" to see what you were writing

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