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Slark=The Official Douchebag Hero?

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Forum » General Discussion » Slark=The Official Douchebag Hero? 27 posts - page 2 of 3
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ChiChi » May 30, 2016 4:03am | Report
Cuttleboss wrote:

You can enjoy whatever you like. No one is trying to take that away from you.

I'm saying that aggressive supports tend to be meaner players. If they're winning, they're probably winning by a lot. Thus, taunts. If they're losing, they are probably losing by a lot. Thus, flames. It's a lot more risk taking, and risk taking means that there something to brag or complain about. Sure, you can say it's more skillful or whatever, and that has its own value, but it does make them more toxic players than the guy who spams heals on Huskar and hope it works out.

Like, I can't recall the last time a Lich or a Dazzle flamed me, but I can remember a lot of times a Shadow Shaman or a Disruptor flamed me. Don't take it personally, it was just an observation.


Precisily this. Every role that promotes more independence and greedyness naturally is, by definition, more likely to be picked by people that don't care much about their teammates. Of course this is just a tendency, and I've been finding a lot of nice players out there in every single role.

Also not that being greedy with support doesn't mean playing higher risks, so the standing back saving is not a synomim of what Cuttle is talking about. For instance, I play high risk with Crystal Maiden most of the times as you know, but I still play it PPD #6 position style. Being greedy in support is spending way too much time farming to get your items instead of listening to the flow of the game and helping your team when needed + helping the other support getting consumables. In a team with more than one support, it gets way easier for both to have something, which will help the team as a whole; unfortunetelly, what happens sometimes is the #4 decides he doesn't need to help one ounce because he needs that Blink Dagger- Aghanim's Scepter, so you're stuck with a very poor #5 that's almost useless in the late game, which also affects everyone negatively.

Example: A very hard game we won yesterday (http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2398524705). Almost in the end of the game the Winter Wyvern made fun of me, saying "such a late game and those items are all you've got"? Yes, here's why: https://yasp.co/matches/2398524705/vision (plus smokes). You see, I still think I did the right choice in not being greedy, because we had tough problems with map control since they bought two gems, but if someone else had helped me a bit, I would have more items, like Silencer and Winter Wyvern did sharing support, and therefore be more useful.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » May 30, 2016 4:05am | Report
Slark in a sentence:
U havin a fookin giggle m8?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ChiChi » May 30, 2016 4:29am | Report
I wish he wasn't a meta hero, so I didn't have to feel bad when picking him now (and worse because I suck), when I finally felt like playing it cause it's so fun to jump and fish around ;_;

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Krwiozerca » May 31, 2016 2:13am | Report
They should do something about the stat stealing. Maybe cut it by half? It would be weird to steal half a stat, not sure about the mechanics.

Perhaps you would need to attack twice to steal the current value. Goes kinda nicely with Echo Sabre.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Krwiozerca » May 31, 2016 2:17am | Report
ChiChi wrote:

It probably depends on the skill bracket and area where you're playing, since I haven't seen a lot of Slark in the last games. Actually almost none at all. But I just came out of a game where I finally got my second kill with the hero (http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2398937987) and I'm not (usually) a douche, so forgive me if I don't go in a ranting agreement here :)


That was a cool game tbqhfamlgbtq

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » May 31, 2016 2:22am | Report
Krwiozerca wrote:

They should do something about the stat stealing. Maybe cut it by half?


Make Essence Shift steal 1 damage and 1 attack speed instead of 1 agility.

It shouldn't affect armor. Because there's no way you can kill that 55 armor Slark except with magic nukes like Necro ult.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ChiChi » May 31, 2016 3:19am | Report
I honestly don't think he needs a rework because I don't see him being overpowered in neither competitive nor pubs, but if people really think so then Hamster's idea could be a good one. A subtle nerf that could make a difference, I like it.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » May 31, 2016 3:54am | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:



Make Essence Shift steal 1 damage and 1 attack speed instead of 1 agility.

It shouldn't affect armor. Because there's no way you can kill that 55 armor Slark except with magic nukes like Necro ult.

He gains 3 agi For every hit, that might be the objectionable part for you.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » May 31, 2016 3:57am | Report

He gains 3 agi For every hit, that might be the objectionable part for you.


So?
Make him gain 3 damage and 3 attack speed instead?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » May 31, 2016 5:47am | Report
How about intead of shifting all essence into agi, he shifts all corresponding to the stolen stats. 1 str 1 agi 1 int or
1 str 2 agi
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