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How to (Actually) Carry With Sven (VERY in-Depth)

April 18, 2015 by apaz
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iFlute | April 10, 2016 5:06pm
This is a very nice guide. Well done!
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apaz (17) | February 17, 2016 12:43pm

Eye of skadi
is in your endgame skill build,
but no explanation ...

please complete

+1 for this guide
i can't find any explanation about the bonusdamage utlimate based on basic damage ingame or on web.
do you have sources ?

+1 for this guide


Actually, all your points are valid. Going to start correcting things soon, and maybe updating.

As for Eye of Skadi, it's a big stat item that helps you control fights. If your opponents aren't especially mobile, especially if they are melee carries as well, it can be a great item. Heart of Tarrasque is the biggest, most efficient damage item in the game for Sven though, and so it's usually the go-to choice for me. However, having mana for several hammers in fights is a big plus side for Skadi. In the build I purposefully chose not to midigate the weaknesses of the hero, only to amplify his strengths as efficiently as possible.
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Sp3ctr3 (4) | February 13, 2016 10:15pm
Great guide, but I have to say that I prefer Eye of Skadi more than Heart of Tarrasque in Sven since Sven's main problem is that he is kited a lot in the figths, but with the slow from Skadi (which goes through BKB) there is no way the enemy is going to run away from you. I can even build an Abyssal Blade instead of Heart since it allows me to hit someone for a longer time.
Daedalus is a great item in Sven since when you crit you can almost kill two people from 1 shot.
Also, consider Soul Ring, this is an item I build in the early stages of the game and it solves my mana problems for the rest of the game (or at least until I buy my Eye of Skadi).
I understand your point about the early stats, but Great Cleave accelerates your farm a lot, so I don't agree with putting lvls that late, I usually put the first point in it around lvl 9 or 10.
I liked your guide a lot and it looks like you put a lot of effort in it so I'll give you a well deserved +1.
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J-A-C-K-P-O-T | February 13, 2016 8:21pm
Eye of skadi
is in your endgame skill build,
but no explanation ...

please complete

+1 for this guide
i can't find any explanation about the bonusdamage utlimate based on basic damage ingame or on web.
do you have sources ?

+1 for this guide
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apaz (17) | September 22, 2015 7:19am
I think I'll end up making a new guide. The comments were all good. By the way, Silver Edge is viable. The guide was pre-6.84.
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dday | September 11, 2015 2:46pm
I'm a beginner but still: wow! thx for the effort apaz, a lot of work and analytics. I'll definetly will try your guide ingame. Hope you will change it slightly acoording to the comments, awesome!
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assimic777 | September 1, 2015 11:03pm
Just 2 times. Excellent guide.
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mac2332 | June 22, 2015 11:07am
Solid guide from the build to how you think about items. Just wanted to mention Silver Edge as a legitimate item on Sven. Str, attack speed and initiation. Pop God Str, War cry, armlet, then silver edge. Just don't do it if you already have invis on your team!
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apaz (17) | May 14, 2015 12:29am
At the time of the guide's creation, it was only +16. Sven's skills are weird, because you can make a very strong case for maxing each one of them(have a Helm of the Dominator before you pick up Great Cleave). I don't really think that tons of early stats are the way to go anymore after the Warcry buff, and would say if you want to take early fights, maxing Warcry second is probably the way to go. However, if you are looking to flash farm, nothing beats Great Cleave. Since flash farming is the point of getting that Helm of the Dominator(the item that this build is about), that is exactly why I generally level Great Cleave over Warcry.

I'll also probably rewrite this guide, because I think that I worded it terribly.
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Wuzzly | May 12, 2015 11:07pm

Ah and when do you use God's Strength , after using Armlet of Mordiggian or before using Armlet of Mordiggian ?

it doesnt matter, since your ult will automatically update the amount of damage you get based off your STR as it's active. generally you should turn both on before blinking in though.

my opinion on the build: generally what i go for. core and luxury items are pretty standard and i agree with them. your list of early game items is rather lacking though. wand is a great item, dont get me wrong, but not every game will you get enough charges to sustain your mana for a long amount of time. bottle, urn, and drum are fantastic early game items (although i'd at the most only get one or two).

aside from that, i prefer to max warcry second no matter what. AOE +20 armor is too good to pass up on and stats is a waste that early on.
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