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Forum » New Player Help » Smart hero pool 26 posts - page 1 of 3
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by V-Slash » April 25, 2015 8:56pm | Report
Hi guys (again!),

Been playing 'round a few games now, and I'm transitioning from a small hero pool to something a bit (a bit, ya know) more elaborated (less newbish, see). I mean, I've got my favorite hero for about every lane now. BUT, when it comes to synergized drafting, I'm wondering how to bring something more onto the table. So, I'm trying to extend my pool to this kind of stuff:

(TTT stands for "Turtle to teamfight", ain't that awesome? xD)
(the star stands for my fav hero in the role, the () stands for some "B-plan")

Now, what's the point of my thread/plan? Ok, very simple:
1) Does it make sense? Anything I've messed up?
2) For the carries I'm just completely out.
3) Gratz to Anteater for giving me this idea to think about that xD!!

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Dual lanes: (Carry/Support)

- Roamers: Kunkka/ Tidehunter
- Push-capable: Terrorblade/ Shadow Shaman
- Close Babysitting: Faceless Void/ Lich
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Junglers that helps:

- Ganking: Legion Commander ( Doom)
- Pushing: Enigma ( Nature's Prophet)
- Teamfights: Sand King ( Batrider)
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Trilanes: (Carry/Support/Support)

- Aggressive: Kunkka/ Bane/ Windranger
- Early tower diving: Sven/ Jakiro/ Earthshaker
- Lategame teamfight: Faceless Void/ Jakiro/ Phoenix
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Solo Offlaners:

- Gank-focused: Clockwerk ( Phoenix)
- Push-focused: Broodmother ( Windranger)
- TTT-focused: Tidehunter* ( Magnus)
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Midlaners:

- Roamers: Bane* ( Kunkka)
- Lane pushers: Terrorblade ( Sven)
- TTT: Kunkka ( Magnus)

Don't Like: Chaos Knight, Leshrac, Viper, Pudge, Elder Titan, Enchantress, Venomancer, Pugna.
Bad at (don't get the gameplay, might reconsider later on): Earth Spirit, Anti-Mage, Weaver, Skywrath Mage, Keeper of the Light.

Final word: If sharing those thoughts finally helps anybody, I'm happy xD. GLHF!

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » April 26, 2015 7:07am | Report
Put Earth Spirit in all the slots (Kappa). For teamfight focused carries - Medusa, Faceless Void, Spectre.

Gank focused carries : Legion Commander, Chaos Knight

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » April 26, 2015 7:20am | Report
Keeper is a good counterpusher, plus he gives eextremely good mana in the early game. He lets heroes who needs to spam spells but have a small manapool actually spam their spells( bristle, ck, sven, etc) and he allows for a instant back into fight ticket for a hero during teamfights when buybacking( bad eng)

Ck makes a good turtle into teamfight hero since his strength is instantly killing a squishy hero 40 mins into the game. He is extremely strong in the lategame after 3 cores.

Sven is another strong lategamer carry, who is one of the best manfighters in the game.(honestly he only loses against the manfighter of the holy triad, void, and troll, king of manfights on equal farm in lategame) not to mention he is a good counter against the currently popular pl and illusion heros in genaral.

Roaming carry that ganks. Bh is sometimes played as carry, especially in the hands of a skilled player, but he is extremely limited in lategame.

Then there is his counterpart, king of pubstompers, riki. Honestly that carry exists only to make your life difficult in the early to midgame by constantly ganking the **** out of your team.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by V-Slash » April 26, 2015 12:16pm | Report
Thanks guys,

@Wulstan: These heroes I've tried and never got something out of them. Obviously I'm not saying they are bad, but I'm just bad with them. Matter of my skill/gameplay I think.
Might give Medusa a go.

@masaaki14: I got rekt many times using KOTL because is too squishy. When I play CM or Lich, I have some slows that helps when I'm caught offguard, KOTL has none. And CK, yes, I noticed he has "some point of explosion" sometime mid/lategame. I'll try Sven as a roamer, I remember having good fun with him when I started, just dunno how I forgot about him.

See ya!

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » April 26, 2015 1:55pm | Report
There are plenty gank-focused mids:

Storm Spirit (pls no...)
Magnus
Pudge
Queen of Pain
Invoker
Night Stalker

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by V-Slash » April 29, 2015 9:07pm | Report
Yes TheSofa, sure. Midlane is in essence gank-focused. It's more like "Push-flavoured" and "TTT-flavoured", haha. Actually I've played with Night Stalker a bit and liked it. I'm also happy with Bane, and might transition to Ember Spirit or another high skill cap midlaner sometime in the -far- future.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Bunkansee » April 30, 2015 9:12pm | Report
Phantom Assassin is sorta gank focused, (you wanna be helping your team once you have picked up a few items, and try to get some kills) since she snowballs off hero kills better than she does from farming.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Blubbles » May 2, 2015 6:50pm | Report
PA is a great mid imo, I always win the mid lane with her. Against any hero. Most mids tend to be sqishy gankers ( SF, Sniper, Storm). Even a pudge is easy to take down with a DD rune and a well placed dagger. You dont even need ult.

Also how can you it be good at Weaver? Haha. Try him again maybe it's just a build or play style you need to adjust.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by V-Slash » May 5, 2015 10:35pm | Report
Tried Medusa with no good results. I think I have to think about learning how to use HotD, because it seems like a mandatory item in all builds. At the moment, Spectre looks like easier to use, and if I'm not aware of what's going on, I can use his ult to go into a starting teamfight. So it's kind of noob-friendly from that point of view.

And Sven, well. Just the kind of tanky badass that I like! ^^

PA is good yeah. Played by so many that I'm not sure... And I really don't know why I'm so bad with Weaver. Watched videos, read guides, and I simply don't get it. Bounty Hunter works better for me if I need a invisibility. Maybe I'll try again the alien bug, dunno.

Would welcome any other feedback. :)

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » May 6, 2015 4:47am | Report
With Medusa you don't need HotD, the idea is to get stat items to boost her stats because she benefits so much from them.

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