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The International 5

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » July 29, 2015 1:50am | Report
Yeah, it worked wonders in that game, because they had no kill potential on it. No disable in the lane, no chance of bursting Ench down thanks to tree, and Spirit Breaker meant they have a lot of kill potential.

That Tree pick was so good. Shut down any potential impact the BH could have from the off.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Fedorable » July 29, 2015 2:44am | Report
EG sweeps vici... again. What is it with Vici being unable to beat EG? They couldn't beat them at the DAC, they couldn't beat them at the Summit, nor at ESL Frankfurt and they can't beat them now. Just EG just have their number or something?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by BKvoiceover » July 29, 2015 4:04am | Report
Fedorable wrote:

EG sweeps vici... again. What is it with Vici being unable to beat EG? They couldn't beat them at the DAC, they couldn't beat them at the Summit, nor at ESL Frankfurt and they can't beat them now. Just EG just have their number or something?


I think it is. I mean look at most if not all of their series' against Vici. They're either complete sweeps or they lose one game or get sweeped in return. But I think in all of the games that vici has played against EG in major tournaments in the past few months they had only won one game. So I agree with you that EG have Vici's number.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » July 29, 2015 7:25am | Report



To be fair, you can possibly not ban all the heroes Secret are OP with.. Zai's brood is insane.. Zai's Tusk is insane.. Kuro's Rubick is crazy good.. Arteezy Gyro is damn good.. Arteezy SF is good.. S4 Puck is crazy good.. This is not even taking into account meta heroes like Bounty..

I think it might be better if teams start planning a strategy and trying to play to that strategy, rather than trying to block Secret's heroes, because, with 5 bans, it just isn't possible to deny them.. Their players are pretty damn versatile, and have more than 2-3 heroes on which they are individually on the next level compared to other teams..

In my opinion, it isn't the heroes.. It's more about Secret's coordination and objective based gameplay that seem so strong.. Everytime they win a teamfight, they seem to get a tower, or roshan, or get something out of it.. Their coordination just seems on a level superior to all other teams I've seen so far at the tournament.. The closest might probably be EG..

Sure but still, nothing is as insane as his queen of pain. There isnt a single team which you have to ban a hero as much to have a chance.
Besides being one of the two best heroes in the game its the perfect 2 when you have a player like RZ on the team.
JUST ****ING BAN IT TEEEEEM.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Nubtrain » July 29, 2015 8:09am | Report
Fedorable wrote:

EG sweeps vici... again. What is it with Vici being unable to beat EG? They couldn't beat them at the DAC, they couldn't beat them at the Summit, nor at ESL Frankfurt and they can't beat them now. Just EG just have their number or something?


Think of it this way, VG got 2nd place at TI4 by beating EG. You can guess at this point EG did a lot of homework on VG and probably most of the Asian teams. EG got them figured out!

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » July 29, 2015 2:02pm | Report
oldKainen wrote:

EG is doing that Offlane Enchantress that Kkoopman suggested a while ago here in the forum, with max Untouchable against VG.

Well done, Kkoop.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » July 29, 2015 2:04pm | Report
So we have Secret vs. LGD in the next match. Will Secret hold strong, or will LGD hatch their level of performance?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » July 29, 2015 3:54pm | Report
I can't recall every having seen Secret play LGD, so I have no idea who the match is in favour for. I'll guess a 1-1, but slightly in favour of Secret, just because I think Secret have the player skill advantage if nothing else.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Yzreel » July 29, 2015 4:29pm | Report
Sanvitch wrote:

I can't recall every having seen Secret play LGD, so I have no idea who the match is in favour for. I'll guess a 1-1, but slightly in favour of Secret, just because I think Secret have the player skill advantage if nothing else.


Well, the draft's looking good for LGD, I'd say.
Secret has almost no stun nor any reply to Io- Tiny combo.
Still, I'm cheering for Secret...
Look at that Queen of Pain on S4 again, and the Shadow Fiend on RTZ!
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » July 29, 2015 4:42pm | Report
WD is a soft counter to Io partners.

Meanwhile Secret almost won the game at 8 minutes with the stack steal. If s4 didn't die as well, then it would've been soo worth it for Secret. A very rare mistake by Puppey as well.

Meanwhile c9 has a Lich which I disagree with hugely. They might be stomping but I still disagree with that pick.

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