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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » October 7, 2015 9:32pm | Report
Why do I do it?

****ed if I know. Fun to watch the enemy team squirm, though.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1846853354
I've never seen Radiant so salty. But no way we were teamfighting into that! Manta Void legit won that game.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1839301070

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1849289909

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1828295824

MUAHAHAHA

Share your rat games ayy lmao
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by UltraSuperHyper » October 7, 2015 9:46pm | Report
My recent rat fav is ember spirit. It's fun to see the enemy team get frustrated cu they did not pick insta disable to counter the remnant.

So satisfying!!

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by highlord728 » October 7, 2015 10:57pm | Report
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1848799653

I was Lone Druid

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Cuttleboss » October 7, 2015 11:48pm | Report
I rarely get to rat, since I always play fighting heroes, and am often supporting. Plus, at my level of play, it's much easier to shut down rats, with the exception of Naga Siren, who can be completely impossible to stop if you draft the wrong heroes.

I experimented with Rat Abaddon a while back, even had a thread about it, and I have a couple games where I tried it, using the invulnerable period to make it so I could always blink and escape, and that once I had my Maelstrom, I could actually push back waves. It was very effective for space creating and pressuring enemies, and it worked pretty well due to the number of rotations it forced, but gotta be careful of certain stunner heroes. Only issue was that Abaddon as a rat hero pushed slower than most rats (he's not like Morph), and was mainly picked up because he was a nightmare to kill.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1660786861
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1661383352

I haven't done it recently, I was thinking of trying it again. However, ever since Patch 6.85, I've won all of my Abaddon ranked games, (+250 MMR, yay me), so I have not had to go into Rat Abaddon in a while because with Vlads Aghs, he's almost impossible for most teams to fight now anyway unless they can easily disengage. The buff to the aghs to give him Kunkka's ship worth of damage reduction without the hangover handles fighting now.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » October 8, 2015 12:07am | Report
Cuttleboss wrote:

I rarely get to rat, since I always play fighting heroes, and am often supporting. Plus, at my level of play, it's much easier to shut down rats, with the exception of Naga Siren, who can be completely impossible to stop if you draft the wrong heroes.

I experimented with Rat Abaddon a while back, even had a thread about it, and I have a couple games where I tried it, using the invulnerable period to make it so I could always blink and escape, and that once I had my Maelstrom, I could actually push back waves. It was very effective for space creating and pressuring enemies, and it worked pretty well due to the number of rotations it forced, but gotta be careful of certain stunner heroes. Only issue was that Abaddon as a rat hero pushed slower than most rats (he's not like Morph), and was mainly picked up because he was a nightmare to kill.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1660786861
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1661383352

I haven't done it recently, I was thinking of trying it again. However, ever since Patch 6.85, I've won all of my Abaddon ranked games, (+250 MMR, yay me), so I have not had to go into Rat Abaddon in a while because with Vlads Aghs, he's almost impossible for most teams to fight now anyway unless they can easily disengage. The buff to the aghs to give him Kunkka's ship worth of damage reduction without the hangover handles fighting now.


What MMR do you play at? I'm ~3k-ish unranked, and it's still really easy if I pay attention (and have decent wards ayy lmao).

I like the idea of rat Abby but he's just too good as a #4 support for me to do it - perhaps as an offlane Abaddon, but against a lot of lineups Abaddon offlane gets zoned out really easily and doesn't get much from the lane.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » October 8, 2015 1:32am | Report
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1846853354

can anyone enlighten me as to why in the world Spectre picked up a Battle Fury?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » October 8, 2015 2:05am | Report
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/839158294

My ultimate rat game. Well im not sure if its counts as ratting or just being disgusting.

So the game before this one we left cause an opponent abandoned and the game was going trash anyways.
Then the next game WE GOT THE SAME AWEFUL DUALSTACK WHO INSTANTKY PICKED JUNGLE LIFESTEALER + JUGGER AGAIN.
On top of that we got the clihé crazy venomancer.
So me and a friend decided to pick kotl naga, go to the offlane and win 2v5.
Earlygame was pretty much spam riptide to get lasthits untill i get the radiance a bit past 20 minutes. We held out long enough and we lucky enough that the doom bought a useless item twice to win eventually.

We did it by me using travels and my friend recalling me around while i sold my diffusal to get 2 hearts and just SLOOOOOOWLY destroying their base. Which after enough time we did.
It did take me running into their base with my real hero to supise them, get kills and die though, but well i could afford to do that as long as i didnt have buyback cooldown.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » October 8, 2015 2:07am | Report
masaaki14 wrote:

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1846853354

can anyone enlighten me as to why in the world Spectre picked up a Battle Fury?


She got it after we ratted out megas because manta void OP, so I'm assuming it was for wave clear. Not the best pickup even in that case.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » October 8, 2015 3:31am | Report
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1401021286

Iirc correctly, we only won this game because our sniper BoT'd into the enemy base to back door the throne. It was wonderful to have happen, because damn was that game intense to play in for me.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Cuttleboss » October 8, 2015 8:42am | Report
Terathiel wrote:

What MMR do you play at? I'm ~3k-ish unranked, and it's still really easy if I pay attention (and have decent wards ayy lmao).

I like the idea of rat Abby but he's just too good as a #4 support for me to do it - perhaps as an offlane Abaddon, but against a lot of lineups Abaddon offlane gets zoned out really easily and doesn't get much from the lane.


I recently went up to 3.7k
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/177350326/matches?date=&hero=abaddon&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=ranked_matchmaking&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=&timezone=Etc%2FUTC
Ratting is still rare here, I think people are still not doing it because of memories of Storm and Techies completely killing ratting in the last patch. But no, in the games I play, when the enemy Prophet, Anti-Mage, or Lone Druid tries to rat, we always tear his team apart, and then push their base, or take their throne while they try to trade it for a rax. It only costs us if the rat pushes faster than all our heroes (as in, only Lycan)

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