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Nushtro (Int version of Sange / Yasha)

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Forum » Hero & Item Ideas » Nushtro (Int version of Sange / Yasha) 20 posts - page 1 of 2
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by IgnoranceIsBliss » May 28, 2015 1:40pm | Report
Nushtro (Intelligence counterpart of Sange or Yasha)

Staff of Wiazrdy + Robe of the Magi + Recipe
1000 + 450 + 600 = 2050


+16 intelligence
+11% spell damage reduction (+ 1 if mixed with sange, yasha or both)
+75% mana regeneration (+ 25 % if mixed with sange, yasha or both)


Passive: Scattering Strikes
Each of your attacks deals damage to an area, item attack modifiers such as Slows, Bashes, etc. will
be scattered to the area aswell but with a weaker version, crits, cleaves and life steal will not be scatterd.

>Area: 250
>Area Damage Reduction: 25%

"Nushtro is a delicate weapon able to strike through a group of bandits at once"

Notes: weaker version of the item attack modifiers


Other Notes
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » May 28, 2015 2:18pm | Report
12 mana regen for 2k gold? idk, that sounds op.
And armor doesnt really fit with the theme, maybe something like reduced damage from spells (not too much, maybe 10-15%?) would fit better?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by IgnoranceIsBliss » May 28, 2015 3:03pm | Report
good idea masaaki14, my mind went blank for the 12 armor part. although i wouldnt think 12 mana regen is op but ill nerf it a bit. ;P thanks for the input.
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Dues, The Elemental Magus
Zermunt, The Plague Doctor
Alphyria, The Lady of the Skies

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » May 28, 2015 3:32pm | Report
Most other mana regen at that price is percentage based, the only other item that gives you raw mana regen is RoB and its build ups. For comparison, you get 0.65 mana regeb from a RoB. To match the Nustro, you would need more than 18 RoBs, which cost 9450gold. Even after you nerfed it to seven, it would still take 10 RoBs to match the mana regen, which would cost 5250 gold.

If you compare other stat items, as the amount of stats given increase, the stat gain per gold is much more.

If you think about it that way, a more reasonable mana regen per min would sit around 2 mana per sec

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » May 28, 2015 3:39pm | Report
Or you can just make it percentage based, that would simplify things very much.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Blubbles » May 28, 2015 11:16pm | Report
Good idea but it shouldnt spread IAM's, it should spread weaker versions of single target spells (damage, Slow, DoT, etc.). Since it is a caster / spell carry item and all that. Doesn't really make since otherwise. Like heroes who get bash dont need this. They need a yasha.

It would be cool if you could build this with S or Y to create 3 different Items.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by IgnoranceIsBliss » May 29, 2015 1:47am | Report
masaaki14 wrote:

Most other mana regen at that price is percentage based, the only other item that gives you raw mana regen is RoB and its build ups. For comparison, you get 0.65 mana regeb from a RoB. To match the Nustro, you would need more than 18 RoBs, which cost 9450gold. Even after you nerfed it to seven, it would still take 10 RoBs to match the mana regen, which would cost 5250 gold.

If you compare other stat items, as the amount of stats given increase, the stat gain per gold is much more.

If you think about it that way, a more reasonable mana regen per min would sit around 2 mana per sec


ahhh i see. okay ill make it percentage based then.
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If you cannot solve it, then what is the use of worrying?

Hero Ideas:
Daemon, The Headhunter
Nuegar, Mercenary of the Ruins
Dues, The Elemental Magus
Zermunt, The Plague Doctor
Alphyria, The Lady of the Skies

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by IgnoranceIsBliss » May 29, 2015 1:53am | Report
Blubbles wrote:

Good idea but it shouldnt spread IAM's, it should spread weaker versions of single target spells (damage, Slow, DoT, etc.). Since it is a caster / spell carry item and all that. Doesn't really make since otherwise. Like heroes who get bash dont need this. They need a yasha.

It would be cool if you could build this with S or Y to create 3 different Items.


actually the idea behind this is to spread buffs to all the enemies in a single AoE, so stunning whole groups of enemies with a single attack is pretty good for me, plus this is rampage material right here.
imagine it you have mjollnir and skadi, u slow the whole enemy team if they stick together, then if the maelstorm procs, it will releas the original chain lightning plus the weaker version, it would punish the enemy team for thier bad positioning, and or actually help your team in teamfights for the heroes who dont have much team fight capabilities.

Edit: it does mix with sange and yasha
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If you can solve your problems, then what is the need of worrying?
If you cannot solve it, then what is the use of worrying?

Hero Ideas:
Daemon, The Headhunter
Nuegar, Mercenary of the Ruins
Dues, The Elemental Magus
Zermunt, The Plague Doctor
Alphyria, The Lady of the Skies

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by DIVEX » May 30, 2015 1:58pm | Report
I think this item is for int's carry not int's caster
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » May 30, 2015 3:19pm | Report
Same way sange is not for str supports and tanks

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