Where is tide?

Im not much to the pro scene but i do notice that people were picking Magnus like a lot of times.. And i didnt see tideunter so much anymore.

Say guys, why the sudden Magnus trend? What happened to the Tidehunter every game trend?

Well, Tide got nerfed quite a bit. Just look at the history.

I think it's due to laning, personally. Despite being fairly difficult to kill, Tidehunter is not a great laner, against meta heroes at least. Troll, Sniper, Jugg, SF are all decent against him.

Magnus will always get some farm and get stuff out of the lane, and he is very effective in duel lanes. But Tide really needs it solo, and he can often get zoned out of the lane and has to go and catch up with ancient stacks. This isn't so bad, but you would rather have your ancients farmed up by your carry to get further ahead (with Empower helping that along...) as opposed to your Tidehunter catching up.

He is still good, and i think he could be seen more, but Magnus specifically is just stronger imo.

Another think could be gap closing. With Sniper having a hero like Clockwerk is very good. Magnus with blink > Skewer to bring him to your team, QoP to blink onto him and burst him down. All preferable.

Just my 2 cents, and i'm sure I've missed something...

It's because of the meta heroes. Troll and jugg both work amazingly with magnus and can burst an enitre team in a matter of seconds.

This isn't an issue. As you said, he Stacks and clears Ancient Camps for farm. It's not a problem to give the ancient stacks to Tidehunter. There's still 2 other Lanes + an entire Jungle out there for the other 2 Cores.

Magnus isn't that strong a laner, you can't spam Shockwave off Cooldown for Farm, and it's much easier to zone out a Magnus than a Tidehunter, since Tide at least has Kraken Shell to soak up Harrass.

Put either against a babysitting Skywrath Mage and neither will get much Exp or Farm out of the Offlane. Tidehunter can catch up by Jungling/clearing Ancients, Magnus needs another Lane if he gets behind.

Magnus is picked over Tide simply due to Skewer and Reverse Polarity working better aginst the current Meta than Ravage. Neither Hero is noticably stronger overall tbh.

The game is too high tempo for a tide. Without ravage he just does too little and the enemy can punish you during that time. Just like puck he is still really strong against certain lineups, but they arent as good against the most popular heroes.

Magnus is popular purely because troll and jugger are disgusting with empower.

Magnus's Reverse Polarity pierces BKB and that long AOE stun might be enough to shutdown current meta heroes which depnds mostly on attack speed.

Yeah, Magnus is picked up just because he synergises with the meta so well. Given heros build massive amounts of stats, and have big DPS without building damage items, Empower becomes disgusting as a result.

It's like... Troll Warlord and Juggernaut already farm incredibly fast, but Empower lets them farm jungle stacks. Which means they get massive net-worth incredibly fast, and stay massive, and become extremely hard to catch up to. And when you land multiple man RP's, you bring the caught heroes from full to 0 in like 4 seconds.

That and Tidehunter got a lot of nerfs. Like, Anchor Smash having to scale, and losing some range was huge, as was the Granite Golem aura making ancients tougher (Given he didn't exactly rush through them even as things are), that it just made him less likely to get guaranteed things from the lane, and thus slow him down overall.

That and as Timm said, without Ravage Tide doesn't do a whole lot. And there's a lot of repeated fighting in this meta before it could go come off of cooldown again.

Personally I like Magnus more than Tidehunter because you can push people to top of the cliff while fighting for the first Bounty Rune :3

Tidehunter is more of a situational pick, because none of his skill pierces magic immunity. The current meta are mostly BKB holder, Troll Warlord, Juggernaut with his Blade Fury and Omnislash. Tidehunter is basically a walking ulti, and he can hardly do anything when Ravage is off cooldown. Although Tidehunter is tankier than Magnus but Magnus has more controls with magic immunity piercing Reverse Polarity, and also Flaming Lasso with AoE effects and only 30 seconds cooldown. In laning phase, if your opponent didn't pay attention, you can Skewer them to your tower and watch them melts.

Also, Magnus is more fun to play with, I have seem people buying Shadow Blade just to get a perfect ult, like a shadow field :3

Empower > Tidehunter. xD