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Bounty Hunter: Nuking Meta

February 24, 2015 by wffls1
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Ab4ddon._.E43 (12) | March 5, 2015 6:16am
My personal opinion - I HATE DAGON BH,
I know it works, its fast and efficient, but somehow it doesn't feel right to me.

I stick with old cookie cutter build :D Near 900 GPM, like a boss ( LP game :P 4v5 still fun )
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FleetAU (16) | March 5, 2015 5:44am
you people do understand that by getting magic nukes your negating the effects of 2 abilities....shadow walk bonus damage and jinada....which is abysmally stupid. I can build dagon eblade on every hero and probably win a few games, while it might work, that doesn't make it good. Other things allow you to kill people and win.

For example if I go phase drums deso bkb mkb I can 1 shot supports, have good stats and contribute to teamfights

(dagon sucks)
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tracc (3) | March 4, 2015 7:35am
Orphelan wrote:


Trust me I know exactly how bounty works! So, I totally agreed but you missed the point. I wrote about the dagon and I didn't even say "bounty is a carry" or "bounty can kill full HP tanky heroes".
I meant the Desolator is better on bounty than dagon because that's how Jinada works.
Hood of Defiance is a really cheap item to counter dagon.
However, different people = different playstyle. You can buy any item you want and say "my role is rock" till your winrate is HIGH with that hero.


If you get every hero in the opposition to buy Hood of Defiance that is a huge deal as well. Hood of Defiance has no offensive value. Ofc you shouldnt do this build if your whole team relies on spell dmg. Black King Bar Doesnt counter dagon. It just delays it.
The value of etheral blade on agi carrys is also not to be underestimated. It increases the damage of Jinada and makes dagon and Shuriken Toss much stronger.
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Orphelan | March 2, 2015 7:28pm
Thane Krios wrote:

You can't kill tanky heroes anyway. Desolator don't give you 2k dmg sorry.

Bounty have no chance in open fight against any carry.

Imagine all carry heroes fighting 1 vs 1 against bounty if we go full dmg mode as most people do.

Ok lets have example :

Bounty Hunter vs PA - both very fat - Bh with MKB no chance anyway

BH vs Wraith King - 1 crit, shuriken, WK throws stun and just kill BH instantly

BH vs semi carry Windrunner - how the hell bounty can kill her even with MKB? Deso + MKB something like 800 dmg - 900 dmg. in end game she will have 2k health anyway probably

She throws ult and just rape BH anyway.

She is not good carry, if you cant admit that look at his winrate and what he gives team.


Trust me I know exactly how bounty works! So, I totally agreed but you missed the point. I wrote about the dagon and I didn't even say "bounty is a carry" or "bounty can kill full HP tanky heroes".
I meant the Desolator is better on bounty than dagon because that's how Jinada works.
Hood of Defiance is a really cheap item to counter dagon.
However, different people = different playstyle. You can buy any item you want and say "my role is rock" till your winrate is HIGH with that hero.
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Thane Krios | March 2, 2015 2:23pm
Orphelan wrote:

And what you do if they have BKB or magic resistance?
Dagon is counterable with 2 simple items. Black King Bar and Hood of Defiance.
I understand the power of the dagon but you make the Jinada pretty useless because you have no dmg if you focus on dagon and Orchid Malevolence.
Orchid is OK item for bounty but the dagon is not so much.

If you have only dagon and orchid you can't kill tanky heroes because you have no dmg but dagon.
Desolator reduce their armor and gives you damage. Dmg is what you need because Jinada is your main skill for killing.



You can't kill tanky heroes anyway. Desolator don't give you 2k dmg sorry.

Bounty have no chance in open fight against any carry.

Imagine all carry heroes fighting 1 vs 1 against bounty if we go full dmg mode as most people do.

Ok lets have example :

Bounty Hunter vs PA - both very fat - Bh with MKB no chance anyway

BH vs Wraith King - 1 crit, shuriken, WK throws stun and just kill BH instantly

BH vs semi carry Windrunner - how the hell bounty can kill her even with MKB? Deso + MKB something like 800 dmg - 900 dmg. in end game she will have 2k health anyway probably

She throws ult and just rape BH anyway.

She is not good carry, if you cant admit that look at his winrate and what he gives team.
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Orphelan | March 1, 2015 1:38pm
And what you do if they have BKB or magic resistance?
Dagon is counterable with 2 simple items. Black King Bar and Hood of Defiance.
I understand the power of the dagon but you make the Jinada pretty useless because you have no dmg if you focus on dagon and Orchid Malevolence.
Orchid is OK item for bounty but the dagon is not so much.

If you have only dagon and orchid you can't kill tanky heroes because you have no dmg but dagon.
Desolator reduce their armor and gives you damage. Dmg is what you need because Jinada is your main skill for killing.
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Thane Krios | March 1, 2015 11:27am
This is quite close to a way i play Bounty Hunter and it rocks.


If you can't understand a genius behind Dagon + Orchid on Bounty you probably buy standard items every game.


Bounty has no solo carry kill potential.

How the hell you suppose to kill tanky carries? You can't you are bounty hunter.

Your role is to keep your team gold HIGH and kill squishy guys in their team.

You jump in, AND YOU JUST DAGONIZE! Bounty is chaser, support killer, disabler and great support.

Personally i got a little more crazy build but dagon is a core item on him.

He can Combo Wombo you in a second for 1500 with dagon etheral and shiruken. But there is another way that makes your kill potential much bigger ;)
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tracc (3) | February 27, 2015 2:41am
I do like this guide and I can see that there may be other heroes that fill a simmilar role better (nyx, lina) but bh can provide other things (truesight, movement speed bonus for chasing or fleeing) and has a slightly better escape than those heroes.
I can also see some matchups, where this build would be preferrable to the regular dmg-build. Take for instance agi carries with their neturally high armor and poor spell resistance. with orchid you could gank legion without fearing his duel. When you play with a dagger-lina e-blading someone in the jungle will definately asure the kill. Also a silenced ebladed enemy sounds funny. Adittionally you get more money money from killing than nyx or lina.

TL/DR: dont bash this guide and the writer so much - he wrote a good guide and has solid reasoning behind his ideas.
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apaz (17) | February 26, 2015 1:27pm
I would say that it's a great guide to Dagon Bounty Hunter. Unfortunately, Dagon Bounty Hunter sucks. So, there.
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FleetAU (16) | February 25, 2015 10:22pm
I don't think this is a very good build at all, but everyone has already stated that so moving on. you want to get invis at level 1 100% of the time if your going solo offlane unless your skilling jinada to slow in order to get a first blood from rune, if your getting dagon eblade why would you get medallion? yes it offers armour and mana regen but drums offers all that, extra stats including a big mana boost and movement speed. You need bkb on bounty hunter, if you don't have that you can only fight heroes with no stuns or disables.....so you can fight **** pa's who don't get bkb and dust and 1 shot you...and thats it.

And without bkb you can't even walk near a teamfight, and you might say "just pick off supports" well no that won't work, they will just 5 man and win the game while you tell your team "SOWY I CAN'T TEAMFIGHT GUYS CUZ IM STUPID"

overall, the only situation this would work in is a pro player trolling pubs. And quite frankly I doubt Arteezy is reading your bounty hunter guide(which is bad)
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armc3j (3) | February 25, 2015 4:01pm
Decently formatted guide, but I have a couple questions.
1. I understand the urge to max shadow walk last in favor of ji nada or shuriken, but I would definitely get 2 levels ASAP. 2 levels of shadow walk allow you to (technically) be premenantly invisible if you have the mana sustain, and that can be the differnce between a successful bank or not, in the early game.
2. Why not add sniper to list of good enemies? A bounty hunter with shuriken, jinada, and items can melt sniper even in late game.
3. As hamstertamer pointed out, why build e-blade and orchid on bounty? I Understand that Dagon is a pretty good item, but something like desolator works much better with bounty(because of jinada) and will be helpful to your team even in the late game. If you are going for pure nuking, why not play nyx assassin?

Decently formatted guide, but I feel that it needs a bit more reflection on team lineup and usefulness before a full up vote.
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KoDyAbAbA (65) | February 25, 2015 1:58am
^

the dagon and battlefury bounty hunter are both ****.

This is a typical 200-game-in "i can pwn noobs, so let me show the world my genius " build.

I would rather go utility items, not steal kills and let my team carry me.
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