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The Biggest Current Flaw in Dota 2 is the Javalin

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Forum » General Discussion » The Biggest Current Flaw in Dota 2 is the Javalin 5 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » December 3, 2016 9:36am | Report
The Javelin does bonus damage

This bonus damage is described as "Pierce"

No where does it say that this damage is "Armor Piercing"

If it was... it would be classified as "Pure Damage"

Would the bonus damage value have to be decreased if it was Pure damage like it should be?

Good question... but the reality stays the same... it's suppose to be pure bonus damage and it is not.

The great irony here is in the question of what Enchantress is using as a weapon

:O

Secondly, the javelin would need to be replaced by a different component in skull basher

because "Bash" is suppose to be bonus "physical" damage and the javelin would now not properly represent that.

Why is PA over powered?

Because we don't see any real counter to her Perse

MKB isn't really doing it's complete job

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » December 3, 2016 9:44am | Report
On the other hand... if this would be too powerful now on a hero like troll warlord for example...

The Javelin could have a special property

Such as, the damage type remains physical up to a certain distance

And then beyond any further distance the damage starts to convert in to pure damage....

Convert into, not add additional...

That way troll would pretty much have to have a dragon lance to get any potential magic damage out of it in theory


And maybe there would be an additional mana cost charged depending on the amount of damage converted...

But that would mean mana cost determined upon the striking, not the attack itself.

Sniper would be over powered in first assumption

But the mana required to pull it off effectively suggests otherwise...


Concept of true strike is one of "consistency"

And nothing represents consistency like pure damage....

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by michimatsch » December 3, 2016 4:33pm | Report
The current flaw is that they won't bother to use the javelin they bought.
Heck, they won't even carry it with them, they are too lazy for that.
It is just sacrificed to an otherworldly entity in exchange for power.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » December 5, 2016 9:24am | Report
It's so weird to try and express how this should work

If pure damage javelin would be op on melee troll

Or if enchantress doesn't really need anymore with hurricane pike in the game


Maybe there would be a factor such as, the closer the enemy is, the more the damage of MKB gets converted in to pure damage

But does not work on melee heroes, therefor remains the typical physical damage

Therefor, not making troll nor enchantress any more the powerful

It would seem to make luna more powerful, in theory...

I'm not so sure that would be the case though because her attack is more for pushing rather then fighting enemy heroes....

Then I think that echo saber should be reworked to be usable on ranged heroes

But rather the closer the enemy is to you the greater chance of the double strike proc going off

At closest range it has the typical max chance

But CAN be used on melee heroes as typical use, rather then the mkb not working as full pure damage at melee range on melee.

It would seem like dark seer and ogre could get left out in this kind of change

But maybe one of those melee intelligence heroes is suppose to have complete natural magic damage attack, and the other completely natural pure....

That damage type only increased by intelligence components and maybe % enhanced damage and work with spellsteal on octarine core?

Which would make for interesting use of echo saber on them

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » November 16, 2017 8:35am | Report
I would like to thank valve and the dota 2 designers for listening to me on this point, I am truly astonished that they seemingly took this information to heart

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