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NOOBCAKE's No MoM Guide to Spirit Breaker

February 7, 2013 by Prome
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Prome (2) | February 18, 2013 11:10pm
yes, bara will most likely kill all heroes 1v1.

but you gank a coupla times and kill them, they're going to stop being alone, and just play 5 man dota. Then, mask of madness will get you killed, even with BKB on.
I just think Maelstrom is a very nice substitute for MoM, for it's boost in attack speed along with a nice UAM that stacks with lifesteal.

I say he has high str gain in my guide, but among STR heroes it really isn't.
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Strength ->ranging from 1.8 to 3.8, 2.4 is kinda below average
With that in mind at best he can tank and disable - MoM gives you disable, but it removes your tankiness. Maelstrom on the other hand gives you both. I guess it would be situational too, but I wrote this to try to expand people's options cos it frustrates me to hell when I see a breaker buy MoM and proceed to feed himself to a tanky enemy team - even drow a few times.
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the_dark_shade (1) | February 18, 2013 3:31am
If u don't have the confidence to kill lina 16 v sb 16.....bro hard luck then.....1 v 1 at any time on most heroes sb wins it.............[mask of madness] is one of the most effective items in early game....he has high strength gain and it makes a hell lot of difference in early game...MOM=more greater bash=more damage on enemy=more stun lock duration > 30% extra damage ...which they may not have the chance to hit u even once if u initiate a one v one properly with all ur kills and just locking them in time.....eg...2.4 sec stun+ 2 to 3 bash if u have mom= 2 sec more lock+ nether strike dodge any damage on bara and hit the target with huge damage and another stun lock for a minimum 1 sec....so basically you get the opponent in 4-6 sec stun lock duration which should be enough to kill most heroes one v one
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Prome (2) | February 7, 2013 5:27pm
Seriously, though. Try it for yourself, see if there's a difference for you. There was a massive difference for me - that's why I wrote this. You tried it, but you don't like it? okay, that's cool. I'm just reachin out to those it may help.

Maelstrom->Mjollnir is the best substitute available to MoM active, and I changed the build to reflect that.
It is obviously my opinion that MoM's active makes it a terrible item for tanks, and you are allowed to have your opinion too. Just asking not to dismiss mine, because I went to the trouble of doing the math and **** to further try to convince the doubtfuls.

Because - face it - you're versing a Sven, or SB, and the tell tale red glow pops up. Are you not going to focus everything on him?

My 2 cents. Thanks for reading! :)
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Prome (2) | February 7, 2013 5:14pm
@chickensoup:

I didn't suggest Mask of Madness as a late item- I am well aware that it is an early game item, and that he hits his peak affectiveness early. However! I am trying to argue that MoM's extra damage CAN result in killing you.

Even in pubs if you get 2 or 3 solo kills on heroes that were farming, they are no longer going to stay alone. Therefore, you can no longer do anything, unless you're ganking with teammates/teamfighting, all through the mid game where SB is at his peak.

That's when the 30% extra damage will come back to haunt you - unless you invest heavily in +armor items, or +hp items, you will be very squishy. He has alright agi gain and his armor is high in the midgame, which is why he's able to tank so much - but MoM completely negates his armor so all physical damage you take is pure.

These are some of the reasons why I think farming another 800 gold and buying a maelstrom instead is a better idea. It takes you on the way to building high attack speed, has a 160 damage chain lightning, and can be built into Mjollnir.

I know SB isn't a carry - but Maelstrom and enough shut-down of the enemy carry can make him into one. Heart x2 + Satanic + Mjollnir + Assault Cuirass + Boots of Travel? Damn near impossible to kill, and will be able to do huge damage.
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LiLPr0 (9) | February 7, 2013 7:11am
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Chickensoup | February 7, 2013 6:57am
By skipping MoM, you are basically bypassing SBs peak effective time period. from level 6 or 7 until about level 13 or 14 is when he is at his best IMO. Past that he can be a useful initiator with charge (charge the guy in the back, ulti to the guy who needs to die first is what i normally do) and with good farm, an ok right clicker.

Don't treat MoM as an end game item for him, treat it exactly how you treat Hand of Midas. It's a farming tool (except it's a farming tool useful against chrs instead of creeps). The charge + MoM + Ulti combo can outright kill a very large portion of the hero pool. if you are worried about getting stunned, well don't go in 1 vs 2 because attacking the non-stuner and going in 1 vs 2 is an awful idea with pretty much any hero. if you are worried about being stunned by the player you are attacking, well you dont activate MoM until you land Charge and getting MoM didnt even factor into the equation.


SB will never be a carry. Aghanim's on him is wonderful because it guarentees a useful initiation sequence(i showed what i do above) every time charge is up. it's also extra health, damage, attack speed and armor. SB is so limited as a carry (he really has nothing that increases his right click damage output significantly, and nothing of his is really defensive) i cant see a scenario (especilly in Pubs) where a team is relying on you to carry the team so you would bypass this item.
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bathristo | February 7, 2013 4:46am
Yes I know I'm just expressing my opinion that I don't like it .Its your guide you can put whatever you want in it .
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Prome (2) | February 7, 2013 4:42am
I thought I reasoned pretty well why I don't like MoM?
thanks for the vote though. :)
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bathristo | February 7, 2013 1:53am
Overall I don't like that you are not using Mask of Madness on a Strength hero.Especially Spirit Breaker.Ive seen alot of them gank my friend (intelligence-agility hero)for 2 seconds after the 15th-25th minute.Overall a pretty good guide and you have a +1 from me .I wish you best of luck .
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Prome (2) | February 7, 2013 1:06am
that's true. thanks
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neio8 | February 7, 2013 12:53am
ill consider the malestorm but i think u should add drums too cause he will benift from stringth and atack spead and movment speed sorry my bad languege am from baghdad iraq
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Prome (2) | February 7, 2013 12:14am
lvl 16 was the easiest because all the stats are given lvl1 - lvl 16 - lvl 25.
SB's strength gain is high, but not that high- with MoM, he would take so much more damage due to him having less armor. its even more risky to buy at earlir levels - however, with Maelstrom, you can tank a lot more. it's only 800 gold more expensive, and it also gives damage + a UAM for farming.
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