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A Comparison of Hero DPS

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Forum » Theory Crafting » A Comparison of Hero DPS 52 posts - page 5 of 6
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by pl0xz0rz » July 31, 2016 7:34am | Report
Doesn't Clinkz deal more damage if he eats a creep? Otherwise he's an Invoker with half of his spells. Kappa

I have tested it with Windranger, Lina, Sniper, Mirana, Silencer and Storm Spirit. These heroes aren't really carries, but they still do deal their damage with rightclicks.

Storm Spirit: Boots of Travel, Bloodstone, Linken's Sphere, Bloodthorn, Mjollnir, Daedalus: 1.3k DPS - This build is somewhat legit, although it has no hex. Storm's based on being elusive, not dealing tons of DPS anyways.

Silencer: Boots of Travel, Bloodthorn, Eye of Skadi, Shiva's Guard, Assault Cuirass, Butterfly, 20 stolen INT: 1.8k DPS - This build is a bit troll, because it's extremely expensive on a hero who doesn't farm well at all, and it deals much less DPS against BKB, this is also an example of the dummies being inaccurate - physical damage wins against them over pure damage.

Mirana: Boots of Travel, Manta Style, Daedalus, Eye of Skadi, Black King Bar, Monkey King Bar: 1.4k DPS - Lack of a strong steroid, yet this proves how strong AGI heroes with good base stats are.

Sniper: Boots of Travel, Manta Style, Daedalus, Satanic, Silver Edge, Butterfly: 1.5k DPS - Without a Rapier, Sniper doesn't offer much DPS. However, his attack range lets him safely attack enemies if protected by Axe, Vengeful Spirit and Lion, or something like that.

Lina: Boots of Travel, Bloodthorn, Daedalus, Eye of Skadi, Satanic, Monkey King Bar: 2k DPS, 2.5k DPS initial burst - casting Light Strike Array always results in DPS loss, Dragon Slave is a DPS loss unless used to refresh passive stacks. This build is too glass cannon to be realistic though.

Windranger: Boots of Travel, Bloodthorn, Daedalus, Aghanim's Scepter, Eye of Skadi, Monkey King Bar: 2.8k DPS, 3.2k DPS initial burst - Windranger is all about deleting single targets, and this is why she isn't a carry - Terrorblade and Chaos Knight deal much more single target DPS, and aren't limited to deleting single targets.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » August 1, 2016 9:22am | Report
That's some pretty good math there. Keep it up! I'm just wondering though, would you actually not get BKB on half the heroes you posted? I'm quite positive Mirana would deal much more without one, and she's the only one getting it on the list here.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » August 1, 2016 9:58am | Report
I did test Clinkz having eaten a creep, and I added a bit on top because I could only eat a 600-hp melee creep :) Thanks for doing extra calculations, I opted out of doing those heroes for a variety of reasons such as Storm being centred around Overload and Mirana rarely being played as a carry.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by YellulzQuiet » August 1, 2016 2:12pm | Report
Test Vengefull Spirit, its every dota player true question, can Vengeful be a viable carry ? she has 2 Damage steroids and HIGH stats growth

Also try to do Mirana with Bloodthorn, its really viable on her, as you have a 5 seconds stun

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » August 1, 2016 5:55pm | Report
Why Skadi on Silencer? He can't use the slow and Scythe is a better item on him (imo).

Also, Full Build Silencer is something like:

Boots of Travel Bloodthorn Assault Cuirass Scythe of Vyse, Hurricane Pike, and a situational item, like Moon Shard, Black King Bar, or Linken's Sphere.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Cuttleboss » August 1, 2016 11:48pm | Report
Silencer can use the slow from Eye of Skadi since Glaives of Wisdom is no longer a UAM. Skadi is still not something he buys that often. Outworld Destroyer is the one that can't use the slow (except on Magic immune opponents) despite the item being much better for him than on Silencer.

Also, in many actual games, wouldn't a silencer want to buy a Refresher Orb? Isn't that more valuable than more damage at a certain point? I realize that the hero DPS doesn't take this into account but still, that's why a measurement of Windranger's damage without a Blink Dagger or many heroes like Gyrocopter or Sven without Black King Bar will just be overly inflated to what happens in actual games.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by michimatsch » August 2, 2016 12:24am | Report
Yeah that Silencer build is definetly not that realistic. You might want to get a Blink Dagger with the build outlined up there as mobility is always the best thing to have and Refresher Orb can be really strong although I don't think it's always the best thing to have.
I kind of hoped that they would take a more realistic approach in this thread but it's theorycrafting after all and they might find some completly new build that actually makes sense.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » August 2, 2016 1:02am | Report
You know you can just turn off the orb for one attack to place the debuff?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by michimatsch » August 2, 2016 3:31am | Report
If you want the slow get a Rod of Atos if you want the stats...why would you want the stats?
But whatever this going offtopic rather fast so we better stop here.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » August 2, 2016 3:33am | Report
Why would I not want stats on a carry hero?

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