[Suggestion]: Iron Guardian

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Glayde » August 10, 2012 3:49am | Report
Here's a new item suggestion.

Iron Guardian:

+45 damage
+10 intelligence
+20 armor

Passive: Damage return

Returns 20% of the damage taken after reductions as true damage. Does not work with another Blade Mail.

Active: Damage Return

Returns 100% of the damage taken after reductions as true damage. Does not work with another Blade Mail. Lasts for 4 seconds.

Builds with Blade Mail + Platemail + Claymore + Recipe (800)

Total cost = 5800

Cooldown = 28

Mana cost = 75

Note: this is an updated version of my first idea.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by xCO2 » August 10, 2012 2:52pm | Report
Include a cooldown, mana cost, targeting type, ect...
A Drops on death is uneeded. It's not that imba of an item, passive armor should be reduced as though. Maybe 25 is a bit more balanced. And unclear what you mean by damage immune, tower fortification or invulnerable?

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Glayde » August 10, 2012 11:06pm | Report
Ah, sorry.

Mana Cost - 110

Cooldown - 75

Targeting type - Self only (not on allies)

Damage immune is when you can't take any damage, from towers, heroes creeps, etc. But some items like Abyssal Blade can still use it's effect on you. It's similar to BKB.

And as for the 25 armor, I'd agree with that. I can just change one platemail to a chainmail and increase recipe cost? Or lower the cost in general.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Hades4u » August 11, 2012 10:19am | Report
I don't think this is a good idea. Well, I don't like it :/

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Quote | PM | +Rep by xCO2 » August 11, 2012 5:06pm | Report
Hades4u wrote:

I don't think this is a good idea. Well, I don't like it :/

Well...are you gonna tell him what you don't like about it?

More appropriate figures would be:

Cooldown - 60

Mana Cost - 250

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Glayde » August 11, 2012 7:17pm | Report
Well, I was comparing this to BKB for the cooldown, and price with divine. I don't really like the high mana cost because this is mainly for initiators like ES, and he has just enough mana to use 3 of his spells. But with decreased mana cost, it should have a larger cooldown, like the one I stated. Your opinions?

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Quote | PM | +Rep by xCO2 » August 11, 2012 9:10pm | Report
I was thinking SK, plus ES has mana...

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Glayde » August 11, 2012 10:50pm | Report
Err...well...you know what I mean. he has relatively low mana, or maybe I'm wrong about that.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Hades4u » August 12, 2012 4:16am | Report
I just don't like the item, it's pointless, if you want armor, there are plenty of options, Blademail, Assault Cuirass, Shiva's Guard, etc.

Also immunity would be kinda overpowered.

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Quote | PM | +Rep by Glayde » August 12, 2012 4:25am | Report
Well, this item was meant to "counter" Divine Rapier, or have a BKB-like effect. Plus BKB gives magic immunity, and it's not overpowered. (I think it is, but the duration shortens. Maybe I should add that?)

Also, this item gives you a bunch of armor (more than any other item) and damage immunity.

Just a side note, are you actually up at 4am? Or do you live in the UK or something.

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