July 30, 2014

LOL vs DOTA2 ... Who Cares?

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LOL vs DOTA2



look honestly i dont care which game is better. i play Dota not LOL though i used to play LOL i find Dota to be a better all round experience .... PERSONALLY.

that means my OPINION is that i like Dota better.

one persons opinion.

so why do we have this annoying and perpetual cycle of:

no lol is better no dota is better no lol is better.

excuse the language but

SHUT THE **** UP AND PLAY YOUR ******** GAMES!!!!

apologies for the crudeness but seriously people who cares? i know i dont .. or well

i didnt...


You see i wrote a nice little comment on a post about LOL vs Dota saying something along the same lines (just not as errr... straight forward.

then i got flamed by LOL fanboys as a "DOTA***" using their words not mine.

so in the interest of "*** you " i will teach my fellow dota companions how to royally destroy their arguments with ....

LOGIC *gasp*

THIS IS NOT A "WHOS BETTER" BLOG THIS IS A DECONSTRUCTION OF THE STUPID INANE ARGUMENTS USED BY LOL FANBOYS TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THEY ARE RIGHT... also like ...ill use big words and stuff

ARGUMENT LOGIC 101
1. THE BLACK AND WHITE FALLACY

where two alternative states are presented as the only possibilities, where in fact a multitude of possibilities exist

this one really gets my goat. (his name is Horatio and he is so CUTE)

yes dota is fun

yea lol is fun

NO THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY MOBAS

so by using these types of arguments you are inherently inserting weakness into your argument. by making your alternative the "only" alternative you are in fact leaving it open to attack from sources other then the one you are defending.

2.THE BANDWAGON

Appealing to popularity or the fact that many people do/follow a certain thing as a form of validation for said thing.

this one annoys me since it always comes up in the argument.

"LOL has more people playing it and more people watching it therefore its better"
"LOL is played by more people then DOTA therefore its better"

because something has the popular vote does not mean it is better... point and case:

Hitler, George Bush, Mussolini... twinkies.

these things had many more people following them and well ... yea.

3).TU QUOQUE

Avoiding having to engage criticism byturning it back on the accuser - answering criticism with criticism.

i.e.

"But LOL does not have a lot of the complex mechanics that dota does."
"the mechanics in dota are horrible they make it suck"

a). by using this type of argument it leaves them open to badgering, i.e. repeat the statement until they answer it and then you can rip their answer apart. and rinse repeat.
b). be forewarned i see dota fan boys doing the same thing so ... stop it. answer criticisms with answers that in one part respond to the critique and in the second part reveal the critique as a positive in opposite to a negative in LOL.

i.e
"the mechanics in dota are more complicated or as you like to call it "horrible" because since the creation of the original mod icefrog and a successive amount of dedicated people have refined and improved upon them to the point where now patches dont have to address the base mechanics of the game but only the mechanics of the heroes, RIOT does away with this by rehauling the base mechanics of the game every 12 months or adding new ones. I for one would rather a old car that runs for decades with out any major problems then a new one that needs to be in the shop every 12 months."

4).THE STRAWMAN

Misrepresenting someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

this one is so rife within the argument i feel pain.

seriously how do people not see this for what it is.

MANIPULATION

for example.

Ted: "Dota has a complex set of rules that allow greater flexibility within the games structure and Valve's F2P model seems to currently be setting the benchmark for all F2P games. i predict that in years to come DOTA will just continue to evolve and the player base will grow only get more dedicated.

Fred: "So basically ted your saying that Valve is the only company that is doing any good in the MOBA community? and that DOTA is the only game worth playing because of its "Rules"? and that its players are more dedicated then any other games players? that a tad bit one sided isnt it ted? also you Predict? you Predict? are you a prophet now ted? LOL and RIOT are doing more good for the Community as a "WHOLE" rather then their own game unlike Valve."



by misrepresenting what Ted said Fred was better able to de construct his argument and respond to the points made within it. unfortunately there isn't much you can do about this online as he has the ability to write that and post it before you can see it. but in a face to face argument you can interject constantly by correcting them with the correct phrasing or wording this forces to accept exactly what you said. once you do this most LOL fan boys will resort to the last and final way to win an argument.

5). AD HOMINEM

Attacking your opponents character or personal traits instead of engaging with their arguments

Sadly most people resort to this to "Win" an argument.

guys dont do this. it might seem like they have won by being able to call you names or attack your integrity but honestly it makes them seem like a child and also if they start to do this ... just leave maybe with a comment like

" if the only way you can defend your argument that "LOL is better" is to attack a person with a differing opinion, then to actually defend the game, then maybe the game isnt worth defending?"


these simple tricks can confuse some people but now you know what they are called and how to defend against them you can continue your flame war with which ever LOL fan boy you meet!!!

i hope this helps guys anyway ...

MAY YOUR CARRY BE EVER FED MAY YOUR SUPPORTS ACTUALLY SUPPORT AND MAY YOUR ANCIENT NEVER FALL, IN THE NAME OF LORD GABE, MAY YOUR COOLDOWNS EVER BE OFF.