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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by xCO2 » April 10, 2014 8:44pm | Report
Outworld Devourer, the whole idea is to spam your Astral Imprisonment to steal their intelligence. He can be a support, mid, or carry.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » April 11, 2014 2:48am | Report
xCO2 wrote:

Outworld Devourer, the whole idea is to spam your Astral Imprisonment to steal their intelligence. He can be a support, mid, or carry.

O_o
Outworld devourer cannot support at all. Thats just as bad as playing support sniper.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » April 11, 2014 3:13am | Report
xCO2 wrote:

Outworld Devourer, the whole idea is to spam your Astral Imprisonment to steal their intelligence. He can be a support, mid, or carry.

OD...Support? D{8

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » April 11, 2014 3:41am | Report
Anti mage also has damage boost with mana break. His ult is also a nuke. Therefore= anti mage support. :P

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by xCO2 » April 11, 2014 10:14am | Report
Whoa, have some faith guys!

There's no reason OD can't be a legitimate support. You can definitely make up for being gold ineffective by getting kills, pulling and stacking creep camps, or like other well scaling supports can pick up a Midas if you're doing well, just like a Leshrac that can snowball out of control in the midgame. His stat gain is pretty monstrous so even if your gold is low as long as you keep your exp graph relatively good you're gonna hurt. What does he provide as a support? Good harass in the form of orb walking and stat sapping, Astral Imprisonment has great setup for heroes with AoE stuns, and if paired with someone who casts spells relatively often you have great mana sustain. The bonus of being an Int support also means you make the most out of utility items like Rod of Atos, Force Staff, Eul's, Orchid, Drums, Mek. Even your luxury is utility, getting your team a Shiva's, Scythe of Vyse, or Linken's is pretty big.

You work well with a lot of carries especially in a trilane where they don't need a stun, but a dual lane with someone like Kunkka, Mirana, or Slardar can work out really well. Supports that provide damage and need setup like Leshrac, Jakiro, and Earthshaker work great with OD.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » April 11, 2014 1:54pm | Report
Nah im still going with as **** as anti mage or terroblade support.

You can play a lot of carries as emergency supports but OD is not one of them.

Wrath king, sven, chaos knight even gyro.

But OD just needs items and levels.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by DzikaPanda » April 11, 2014 2:44pm | Report
xCO2 wrote:

Good harass in the form of orb walking and stat sapping


I really can't see how you want to harass with skill that cost 100 mana without maxed aura. And to have maxed aura you need lvl 7, but by the time you have lvl 7 there will be no need to harass, as most supports should already leave lanes and roam :D
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DzikaPanda wrote:

I really can't see how you want to harass with skill that cost 100 mana without maxed aura. And to have maxed aura you need lvl 7, but by the time you have lvl 7 there will be no need to harass, as most supports should already leave lanes and roam :D

Same problem with stealing Intelligence with Astral Imprisonment, you can't spam it, and most Offlaners will have the sense keep their distance anyway. You see a Support coming up towards you, you back off...even if it's a Support OD 8{3

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by DzikaPanda » April 11, 2014 3:13pm | Report
Xyrus wrote:


Same problem with stealing Intelligence with Astral Imprisonment, you can't spam it, and most Offlaners will have the sense keep their distance anyway. You see a Support coming up towards you, you back off...even if it's a Support OD 8{3


Well I can actually imagine using Astral Imprisonment on some semi-trench mmr where people think that they are on safe lane when offlaning, maybe you just need to do some techies-like build with 8 clarities 8{D
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